Earlier quoted context omitted.
Out of respect for Linus, it should be called Linux, and not by some made-up name.
Linux is a made-up name.
No, Linus created a piece of software and called it Linux. It is his creation and he named it.
Show HN: DeepUI Programming Studio – A different approach to programming
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Re: Show HN: DeepUI Programming Studio – A different approach to programming
#72Some feedback on the website: IMO, it's obnoxious and disrespectful to play full screen video like you're doing. That just made me close it immediately and leave after reading through the text. Considering the complexity involved in developing a an advanced IDE or similar, have you considered publishing an open source community version? Similar to JetBrain with IntelliJ. They seem to be doing great. Since we're on th…
Why does EVERYTHING have to be opensource these days to be considered acceptable?
Re: Show HN: DeepUI Programming Studio – A different approach to programming
#73Some feedback on the website: IMO, it's obnoxious and disrespectful to play full screen video like you're doing. That just made me close it immediately and leave after reading through the text. Considering the complexity involved in developing a an advanced IDE or similar, have you considered publishing an open source community version? Similar to JetBrain with IntelliJ. They seem to be doing great. Since we're on th…
Why does EVERYTHING have to be opensource these days to be considered acceptable?
Because with open source software:
- You can run the program as you wish, for any purpose.
- You can study how the program works, and change it so it does what you want.
- You can redistribute unmodified copies without fear of the publiher suing you.
- You can distribute copies of your modified versions to others without fear of the publiher suing you.
Who wouldn't want to have all that in a tool that will be the basis for your own projects?
Re: Show HN: DeepUI Programming Studio – A different approach to programming
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why does EVERYTHING have to be opensource these days to be considered acceptable?
Because with open source software: - You can run the program as you wish, for any purpose. - You can study how the program works, and change it so it does what you want. - You can redistribute unmodified copies without fear of the publiher suing you. - You can distribute copies of your modified versions to others without fear of the publiher suing you. Who wouldn't want to have all that in a tool that will be the bas…
I understand when we're talking about crypto or security. You want your data to be safe. You want to know that it is what they're selling. But this? A guy is building something that might be cool one day. One should he make his engine/IDE opensource? He can but doesn't have to. I don't see people screaming why SublimeText, AbletonLive, Photoshop or many other tools aren't open source. There is still that thing called commercial software and some people make a living out of it.
Re: Show HN: DeepUI Programming Studio – A different approach to programming
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because with open source software: - You can run the program as you wish, for any purpose. - You can study how the program works, and change it so it does what you want. - You can redistribute unmodified copies without fear of the publiher suing you. - You can distribute copies of your modified versions to others without fear of the publiher suing you. Who wouldn't want to have all that in a tool that will be the bas…
I understand when we're talking about crypto or security. You want your data to be safe. You want to know that it is what they're selling. But this? A guy is building something that might be cool one day. One should he make his engine/IDE opensource? He can but doesn't have to. I don't see people screaming why SublimeText, AbletonLive, Photoshop or many other tools aren't open source. There is still that thing called…
SublimeText, AbletonLive or Photoshops are not platforms where you create an automated software artifact that runs on top of the tool. On top of a programming language, however, you depend on the tool being always available without major changes for as long as you need it to remain stable. This is not guaranteed on a privative development platform. They are simply not in the same class of products at all.
In all your three examples, the product they create is detached from the creation platform before release, and that product (text, music, images) is compiled/played/displayed on a different application; an also there are many alternative tools where the product could be processed if the original tool ceased to exist.
So there's no fear with those that, if the tool creator begins imposing more and more restrictions, you'll be locked-in. But a unique programming language for which your code can't possibly be ported to a competing platform? One would be stupid to develop for it anything requiring ongoing commercial support, beyond some cool tech demos.
Re: Show HN: DeepUI Programming Studio – A different approach to programming
#76Is it just me? Or does this look 10 times geekier than writing actual code? I think the project is trying to be a user friendly way of writing programs, and I think that's an awesome idea, but the actual product looks otherwise. I finished the video and still have no idea what the hell was going on through out the entire video.
I think they pursue a similar approach to programming or implementing programming logic as DRAKON.
If you believe their website it has been used in the Russian Space Program.
But I have to agree with you, this DeepUI looks a PITA to work with in comparison to DRAKON.
Re: Show HN: DeepUI Programming Studio – A different approach to programming
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand when we're talking about crypto or security. You want your data to be safe. You want to know that it is what they're selling. But this? A guy is building something that might be cool one day. One should he make his engine/IDE opensource? He can but doesn't have to. I don't see people screaming why SublimeText, AbletonLive, Photoshop or many other tools aren't open source. There is still that thing called…
SublimeText, AbletonLive or Photoshops are not platforms where you create an automated software artifact that runs on top of the tool. On top of a programming language, however, you depend on the tool being always available without major changes for as long as you need it to remain stable. This is not guaranteed on a privative development platform. They are simply not in the same class of products at all. In all your…
Stupid as all those people building games with Unity? Or all those people who used to use Unreal/UDK before v4 while there was no source code available?
Anyway not here looking to start a flame war. My point was that the product can be good or bad and it doesn't have anything to do with it's source code being available or not.
My 5c. Everyone feel free to disagree.
Re: Show HN: DeepUI Programming Studio – A different approach to programming
#78Some feedback on the website: IMO, it's obnoxious and disrespectful to play full screen video like you're doing. That just made me close it immediately and leave after reading through the text. Considering the complexity involved in developing a an advanced IDE or similar, have you considered publishing an open source community version? Similar to JetBrain with IntelliJ. They seem to be doing great. Since we're on th…
Why does EVERYTHING have to be opensource these days to be considered acceptable?
So that companies which haven't made any contributions to the code or its development can profit from it, presumably.
Re: Show HN: DeepUI Programming Studio – A different approach to programming
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
SublimeText, AbletonLive or Photoshops are not platforms where you create an automated software artifact that runs on top of the tool. On top of a programming language, however, you depend on the tool being always available without major changes for as long as you need it to remain stable. This is not guaranteed on a privative development platform. They are simply not in the same class of products at all. In all your…
Stupid as all those people building games with Unity? Or all those people who used to use Unreal/UDK before v4 while there was no source code available? Anyway not here looking to start a flame war. My point was that the product can be good or bad and it doesn't have anything to do with it's source code being available or not. My 5c. Everyone feel free to disagree.
Both Unity and UDK recognised the benefits of open source, and have OS components.
A product can be good or bad without OS. So long as you can deploy what you make with it effectively.
Sometimes that means mindshare, like UDK and Source.
Sometimes that means complete decoupling tooling from code like Sublime and Atom.
Sometimes it is more about the deployment, like Visual Studio and Unity.
However, to stand out, this product needs one of the above.
It's new, and doesn't seem to be backed by a big name, so no mindshare yet.
So they need to somehow make devs want to use it for their code. A nice experience is usually not enough.
An OS community, or a fantastic cross-compilation strategy are the only two things that I, personally, have seen work.
OS seems to be the easiest of the two.
Re: Show HN: DeepUI Programming Studio – A different approach to programming
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why does EVERYTHING have to be opensource these days to be considered acceptable?
Because with open source software: - You can run the program as you wish, for any purpose. - You can study how the program works, and change it so it does what you want. - You can redistribute unmodified copies without fear of the publiher suing you. - You can distribute copies of your modified versions to others without fear of the publiher suing you. Who wouldn't want to have all that in a tool that will be the bas…
But what if you write it?
I'm happy with non-commercial use (including providing the source), but if someone wants to make money from software I write, it's only fair that they should pay me, and under the open source model they don't have to, and usually they won't.