This is what happens in statism. Time to wake up, slaves. Google my name and statism. Read.
A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone
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Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can we not make the leap from searches at border checkpoints (a major issue in and of itself) to murdering 6 million people in every thread? It's a valid concern but that kind of language immediately turns people off and tilts the entire discussion one way.
sorry, we will keep making that leap as long as the crazy person osnpresident because we all worry some approximation of that could happen now.
If you can provide any evidence that Trump is looking to commit genocide, most people would be happy to know.
Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone
#83Their point about how other countries will take the US's stance as a cue is somewhat scary. If you try and cross any border it will be relinquishing access to all accounts. I'm assuming email also comes along with 'social media', since communication is by its definition social. So how do you protect yourself? I think just going with "Don't have any social media" isn't a good answer because the relationship that child…
See this -^ ? It's a new pseudonymous account. Unless your social network has some kind of insane policy where they only allow you to have a single identity you can use that kind of feature to compartmentalize your activities. Combine that with a phone that lets you have multiple users where you use one for banal activity which you can then show to Big Brother when he comes knocking. And others for anything important…
Let me start by saying I don't begrudge your info hygiene habits at all, this isn't an attack against you. But I've seen a few suggestions lately on building tools to circumvent these awful policies.
What we need to be doing is vehemently protesting these policies and rejecting them completely. If we start building tools to deny information when someone Has physical access to your unlocked device then we normalize these policies and accept the enevitibility that our privacy is gone. This is a war we cannot win. Not everyone is going to operate with the hygienic standards you use.
That said I've never actively protested a thing in my life. I am basically guilty or complicit myself, and I hate it.
Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
> So how do you protect yourself? Individually? It's extremely difficult other than "try not to appear suspicious" and bring a dumbphone when crossing borders. The real protection is collective. Stopping the current administration is only the beginning; the Democrats are merely "not as bad" on this kind of issue. Broader anti-racism and anti-racist-media action is needed, because otherwise this kind of arbitary bruta…
Broader anti-racism and anti-racist-media action is needed, because otherwise this kind of arbitrary brutal border policy will win votes. This is an issue much bigger than race and as soon as we stop compartmentalizing it into that it will be better for us all. You turn it into another about race thing and people will tune out. You make people realize they are at risk no matter who they are and they might pay attenti…
I don't know why you were downvoted; while it's true that racial minorities are targeted more often than most, many don't empathize with that. They only care once their own rights are threatened.
By making it clear that these issues harm everyone, we can prevent these actions from happening to anyone. People are willing to take away the rights of others, but generally are not willing to sacrifice their own.
Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hope you realize the job of the president is to instruct these agencies on how to conduct their operations. Don't defend people (CBP employees) which are are acting immorally, and possibly illegally. The Nazis said they were "just doing their job", and that defense did not stand up at the Nuremberg trials. Anyone who enforces orders of questionable legality is part of the problem (such as those executing these race…
Can we not make the leap from searches at border checkpoints (a major issue in and of itself) to murdering 6 million people in every thread? It's a valid concern but that kind of language immediately turns people off and tilts the entire discussion one way.
Won't stop until that man is deposed.
Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
> So how do you protect yourself? Individually? It's extremely difficult other than "try not to appear suspicious" and bring a dumbphone when crossing borders. The real protection is collective. Stopping the current administration is only the beginning; the Democrats are merely "not as bad" on this kind of issue. Broader anti-racism and anti-racist-media action is needed, because otherwise this kind of arbitary bruta…
Broader anti-racism and anti-racist-media action is needed, because otherwise this kind of arbitrary brutal border policy will win votes. This is an issue much bigger than race and as soon as we stop compartmentalizing it into that it will be better for us all. You turn it into another about race thing and people will tune out. You make people realize they are at risk no matter who they are and they might pay attenti…
Not sure why you are down-voted but this is true. Most of the anti-liberty policies come in disguise of we v/s bad guy arguments. The bad guys are often minorities.
Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone
#87US citizens can not be prohibited re-entry into the US.
Really?
We MURDERED a US citizen abroad.
Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hope you realize the job of the president is to instruct these agencies on how to conduct their operations. Don't defend people (CBP employees) which are are acting immorally, and possibly illegally. The Nazis said they were "just doing their job", and that defense did not stand up at the Nuremberg trials. Anyone who enforces orders of questionable legality is part of the problem (such as those executing these race…
Can we not make the leap from searches at border checkpoints (a major issue in and of itself) to murdering 6 million people in every thread? It's a valid concern but that kind of language immediately turns people off and tilts the entire discussion one way.
Well they didn't start with the ovens. In the beginning it was the branding and isolationism (them and us), then the detainments and asset seizures, then the interments. And once you run out of space for interments...ovens.
Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
> So how do you protect yourself? Individually? It's extremely difficult other than "try not to appear suspicious" and bring a dumbphone when crossing borders. The real protection is collective. Stopping the current administration is only the beginning; the Democrats are merely "not as bad" on this kind of issue. Broader anti-racism and anti-racist-media action is needed, because otherwise this kind of arbitary bruta…
Broader anti-racism and anti-racist-media action is needed, because otherwise this kind of arbitrary brutal border policy will win votes. This is an issue much bigger than race and as soon as we stop compartmentalizing it into that it will be better for us all. You turn it into another about race thing and people will tune out. You make people realize they are at risk no matter who they are and they might pay attenti…
The problem is, the reason it does win votes, and the reason a lot of people want "law and order" and "tough on crime", is because they reason it won't apply to them, but to "those people". What is "those people" defined by in their minds, at least to a first a approximation before they consciously reason about it? Race.
Now, they might think in terms of it being for thugs and terrorists, instead of black people and Muslims, but they 'know' they themselves can't possibly be mistaken for either because they 'don't look like a thug/terrorist'. While the searches are indeed applied along racial lines, it will be hard to convince them otherwise, because they are mostly right.
So, sure, this is about liberty, about forestalling totalitarianism, about our human right to privacy and our political right to protection from unreasonable search, but it is also about race and about xenophobia. I am not sure failing to acknowledge that does us any favors strategically. At risk of going full Godwin's Law, there were a lot of things wrong with Nazism besides anti-semitism, but analyzing why people allowed the rise of Nazism without talking about anti-semitism is foolish.
Re: A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone
#90As a white man, I'm a bit concerned about coming back into my own country. The only social media accounts I have are here and reddit. Will the guards at the gate accept that I don't have a Facebook or twitter account?
how considerate of you.