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Effectively Using Android Without Google Play Services with Gplayweb in Docker

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Re: Effectively Using Android Without Google Play Services with Gplayweb in Docker

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Post by xkxx »

JulienSchmidt wrote: post #8

Time to mention https://microg.org/ / https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12864429 again. It's a FLOSS re-implementation of Google Play Services. It offers e.g.: * Optional completely offline geo location service via an on-phone database which often preserves battery and even works when no internet access is available. Online backends using e.g. Mozilla Location Service are also available * The often unavoidable Pus…

> * Optional completely offline geo location service via an on-phone database which often preserves battery and even works when no internet access is available. Online backends using e.g. Mozilla Location Service are also available

Sounds really cool!

> * The often unavoidable Push notifications via Google Cloud Messaging while only sending minimal identifying data

Can you elaborate, please?

Re: Effectively Using Android Without Google Play Services with Gplayweb in Docker

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Post by Oletros »

TwoNineA wrote: post #6
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably the fact that Google Play Services can update itself without your approval or consent, so Google can push any antiprivacy feature to your phone they want without your knowledge at any time. Play Services meets basically every definition of malware.

Hyperbole much?

Just look at his comment history

Re: Effectively Using Android Without Google Play Services with Gplayweb in Docker

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Post by necessity »

Uber, Tinder, and other apps I use require Google Play Services in their latest version. They simply refuse to work without it and there is no web alternative. It's either downgrade to a bug-prone version or use Google Play Services. There is really no privacy on a fully functional Android Phone that isn't just email and phone services - though I guess if you're using Uber and Tinder there is no privacy one way or the other.

Re: Effectively Using Android Without Google Play Services with Gplayweb in Docker

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Post by home_boi »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #7
TwoNineA wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hyperbole much?

Not really. Strictly speaking Google Play Services is a rootkit. One that can be used remotely. And it contains heaps of invasive user tracking code. Is is pretty much malware.

Genuine question, what user tracking is there that isn't opt out?

Re: Effectively Using Android Without Google Play Services with Gplayweb in Docker

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Post by fxaguessy »

necessity wrote: post #13

Uber, Tinder, and other apps I use require Google Play Services in their latest version. They simply refuse to work without it and there is no web alternative. It's either downgrade to a bug-prone version or use Google Play Services. There is really no privacy on a fully functional Android Phone that isn't just email and phone services - though I guess if you're using Uber and Tinder there is no privacy one way or th…

When I tried Uber (a few months ago) without Play Services, it was working, but without the location feature. So, if you typed an address, it was working as expected.

Re: Effectively Using Android Without Google Play Services with Gplayweb in Docker

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Post by tehwalrus »

I tried to use a Cyanogenmod phone over the summer without google play services (I couldn't get it to install).

I used the Amazon android store, which has many of the same applications as the play store. However, most apps I installed crashed on first launch due to (I assumed) lack of play services.

It was a very crappy experience which lasted only about a week before I switched back to a handset where the gapps flash worked correctly.

Re: Effectively Using Android Without Google Play Services with Gplayweb in Docker

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Post by xkxx »

necessity wrote: post #13

Uber, Tinder, and other apps I use require Google Play Services in their latest version. They simply refuse to work without it and there is no web alternative. It's either downgrade to a bug-prone version or use Google Play Services. There is really no privacy on a fully functional Android Phone that isn't just email and phone services - though I guess if you're using Uber and Tinder there is no privacy one way or th…

Have you tried running Uber or Tinder under microG mentioned by JulienSchmidt in this thread?

Re: Effectively Using Android Without Google Play Services with Gplayweb in Docker

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Post by nebulous1 »

JulienSchmidt wrote: post #8

Time to mention https://microg.org/ / https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12864429 again. It's a FLOSS re-implementation of Google Play Services. It offers e.g.: * Optional completely offline geo location service via an on-phone database which often preserves battery and even works when no internet access is available. Online backends using e.g. Mozilla Location Service are also available * The often unavoidable Pus…

Anybody have the lowdown on what currently does/doesn't work with this? Specifically, which sort of apps work and which don't?

Does this clone the google services framework or just google play services?

Re: Effectively Using Android Without Google Play Services with Gplayweb in Docker

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

Oletros wrote: post #12
TwoNineA wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hyperbole much?

Just look at his comment history

My comment history will reflect a persistent strong advocacy for privacy on the Internet. :)

If you're going to follow me around here, please try to argue with my points rather than insinuating something about my character.

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