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I used LAMP to make a SaaS app with $3700/month profit

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Re: I used LAMP to make a SaaS app with $3700/month profit

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Post by mskvsk »

jsumrall wrote: post #59
mskvsk wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, your opinion won't change this kind of stuff in other countries either. Your actions will, though.

Exactly, which is why I think it's important to point out when something is wrong rather than try to promote it as an example for others to follow. Sure, feel free to continue. Just don't come here looking for praise. edit: *praise from everyone. It seems some people are impressed. Congrats.

Dude, look around. There's no shortage of people pointing to something.

It's not about shaming. It's not about praise.

It's about actually doing something, even if it seems dirty. Because one day it'll help you to actually change the whole system. There are a lot of examples of this phenomenon.

Re: I used LAMP to make a SaaS app with $3700/month profit

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Post by xiaoma »

jsumrall wrote: post #56
xiaoma wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Other things you must hate: morality and ethics." I'm less impressed with your own ethics than those of the OP. The OP made a tool that served a market niche in a country that isn't so wealthy and then shared the story here to help other makers. You've taken exception with one small piece of the story and expanded it to claim the poster "must hate morality and ethics". While it's a bit of a rabbit hole to get into…

The tool OP made is neither technically challenging or interesting. The story is about what the tool was for, which is certainly not one small piece. These types of stories are great and motivational, but not when it promotes people who are looking for inspiration to turn to stealing content and selling access to it. Just because this kind of stuff is common in other countries or cultures doesn't change my opinion ab…

By stealing do you mean copying? What is the actual harm caused by social media marketing norms on VK?

Do you feel like Indians making generic copies of western cancer drugs is also wrong?

Most importantly, what kind of paragon of morality are you to pass such strident judgment on such a pedestrian issue?

Are you some super eco-conscious, vegetarian, volunteer worker who fights to stop the various unsavory things you have going on in your own country... or are your unyielding ethical judgments primarily reserved when for those living in much poorer countries and different cultures copy and share each other's social media ads?

I just don't understand why this is an issue worthwhile to try to shame strangers on the internet over.

Re: I used LAMP to make a SaaS app with $3700/month profit

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Post by mskvsk »

jsumrall wrote: post #59
mskvsk wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, your opinion won't change this kind of stuff in other countries either. Your actions will, though.

Exactly, which is why I think it's important to point out when something is wrong rather than try to promote it as an example for others to follow. Sure, feel free to continue. Just don't come here looking for praise. edit: *praise from everyone. It seems some people are impressed. Congrats.

And I'd like to address the "not technically challenging" part of your comment.

Do you have even slightest idea what it takes to juggle the APIs of 4 buggy social networks without passing it through to your customers?

I'm not saying I'm a high-league developer, but your remark seemed like an ignorant understatement to me.

Re: I used LAMP to make a SaaS app with $3700/month profit

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Post by r_ventskus »

jwildeboer wrote: post #11

TL;DR "I scrape content from others and sell them without any credit to or rewards for the original creators" AFAICS.

Guys, 99.9% of posts in VK.com - it's not a real content. It's more like repost of repost of repost of repost... They are just something like photo of cute cat with funny description below. And this is actually not copyrighted content. So all groups just copy content from each another. Infinite carousel of content.

This service is 100% clean from side of morality

Re: I used LAMP to make a SaaS app with $3700/month profit

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Post by brudgers »

humanrebar wrote: post #30
jeffehobbs wrote: post #28

"Anyway, I always hated manual labor and decided to make a little tool to help me scrape the posts of my competitors and publish them to my group on a regular basis.” Other things you must hate: morality and ethics.

> I’d also removed the posts that were obviously copyrighted. I'm not a lawyer, but in American copyright law, anything published is assumed copyrighted by someone , though it may not be clear exactly who. I'm especially not an international copyright lawyer, so I can't say how typical that is. Point being, you'll get in legal trouble for doing this. You might win a lawsuit if what you are scraping is not copyrightab…

Google is in the US. The rest of this post is left as an exercise for the reader.

Re: I used LAMP to make a SaaS app with $3700/month profit

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Post by patrickg_zill »

jeffehobbs wrote: post #28

"Anyway, I always hated manual labor and decided to make a little tool to help me scrape the posts of my competitors and publish them to my group on a regular basis.” Other things you must hate: morality and ethics.

Russia in general has very lax attitudes towards copyright and did not even join the Berne Convention until 1995.
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