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An Oracle branded VirtualBox Released - Oracle aren't going to kill this project

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Re: An Oracle branded VirtualBox Released - Oracle aren't going to kill this project

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It's a decent Unix OS. It's as comfy as any modern Linux distro. Much nicer than, say, AIX for a development desktop.

> Much nicer than, say, AIX for a development desktop. Interesting observation. In what way do you think Solaris is better for dev than AIX?

Gnome.

Last time I used AIX, I used CDE. I assume I could install Gnome (I did it on an SGI, long ago) but I never got to.

Re: An Oracle branded VirtualBox Released - Oracle aren't going to kill this project

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It's a decent Unix OS. It's as comfy as any modern Linux distro. Much nicer than, say, AIX for a development desktop.

What does it do better than Solaris 10, which seems about the equivalent of AIX or HPUX in terms of installation, package deployment, and toolset maintenance (as little as possible).

A newer Gnome, mostly.

Re: An Oracle branded VirtualBox Released - Oracle aren't going to kill this project

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Virtualbox is absolutely brilliant for reverse-engineering windows executables so I'm glad to hear this.

Are you using it strictly as a virtualisation host, or are you using the fact that you can set up serial ports and whatnot to do Windows kernel debugging? I personally use VMWare Fusion for reversing Windows executables, VMs are invaluable in that snapshotting aids in quickly returning to a known good state, and I can continue to take notes in applications outside of the VM to keep track of my progress.

Both as a virtualisation host and I've dabbled in a bit of kernel debugging using it.

Re: An Oracle branded VirtualBox Released - Oracle aren't going to kill this project

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While I'm glad to see Oracle are pushing the development of VirtualBox, I'm fearful they will make it 'not-free' and try to price it like VMware Workstation. I have the same fear for MYSQL. Let's hope Oracle have the sense not to tinker too much.

They could always do a Wine thing or just have a commercial(ly supported) version.

Re: An Oracle branded VirtualBox Released - Oracle aren't going to kill this project

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How come? Our experience with OpenSolaris so far has been headache-y.

I have some limited experience with OpenSolaris, but it has, so far, been good. I particularly love ZFS and its Linux-ish the package management. They could have the latest Gnome desktop for the adventurous ones.

We ended up using OpenSolaris for a project specifically for ZFS, plus some related hardware support. I typically use OpenBSD or Debian for most projects requiring a BSD or Linux, so I found myself comparing it to those two systems.

We've definitely had some trouble with getting packages to work correctly, especially when using newer versions of software that were available as packages in the distribution. Most maddeningly though, it's slow. We set it up on a pretty beefy abmx machine, and at its worst it took over 15 minutes to boot.

Re: An Oracle branded VirtualBox Released - Oracle aren't going to kill this project

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I have some limited experience with OpenSolaris, but it has, so far, been good. I particularly love ZFS and its Linux-ish the package management. They could have the latest Gnome desktop for the adventurous ones.

We ended up using OpenSolaris for a project specifically for ZFS, plus some related hardware support. I typically use OpenBSD or Debian for most projects requiring a BSD or Linux, so I found myself comparing it to those two systems. We've definitely had some trouble with getting packages to work correctly, especially when using newer versions of software that were available as packages in the distribution. Most madde…

There is something very wrong with your setup. It should boot within +- 20% of the time taken by Linux on the same hardware.

Re: An Oracle branded VirtualBox Released - Oracle aren't going to kill this project

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We ended up using OpenSolaris for a project specifically for ZFS, plus some related hardware support. I typically use OpenBSD or Debian for most projects requiring a BSD or Linux, so I found myself comparing it to those two systems. We've definitely had some trouble with getting packages to work correctly, especially when using newer versions of software that were available as packages in the distribution. Most madde…

There is something very wrong with your setup. It should boot within +- 20% of the time taken by Linux on the same hardware.

I know; we just haven't been able to puzzle out what's wrong with it. For now, we have to live with it.

This was a while ago, but IIRC the slowdown was happening at a point in the boot process where logging wasn't helpful at all.

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