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an american having a master's degree and getting low wages could mean they're indeed poor. a near-lifetime of non-dischargeable debt repayment.
They're clearly people who had choices in life.
Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers
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The "horrendously massive number of these types of workers" is the result of a violent imposition of a Capitalist ideology that masquerades as some inevitable, invisible, and inviolable logic. Robots and AI deployed by an oligarch class are just the newest incarnation of a truncheon waved in the face of the engineers who enable them. Better the poor be beaten with it than you. I say we change the trajectory of the fu…
This "nightmare" isn't an invention, it's the natural state. Progress is bringing us closer meeting needs for everyone, instead dying in a cave when the snow got too high to hunter-gather.
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90 percent up to out of pocket max. My out of pocket max has always been between 1k and 5k per year. So if I need 1 million dollar cancer treatment, I don't pay 100k. I pay 5k. So no I cannot go bankrupt with health insurance in the US.
I see you have actual experience with the system. Most people commenting here seem to be parroting talking points from politicians. When I actually post my real experiences, I get down voted to -2. ....and we wonder why there are so many broken systems in the US.
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They're clearly people who had choices in life.
well, they presumably weren't born into slavery only to be worked brutally hard then tortured and murdered by a slave owner, so i guess they're worthy of a sneer or two.
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Yeah, the reality we live in is a binary one where we must go along with exploitation of the poor, or we're killing them. Nothing else is possible.
Until we have enough skilled workers in the world where we are regularly pumping out robots that can perform menial labour there will always be a need for this type of worker. We live in a time where hyper robot production is not happening, we also live in a time where actually there is a absolutely horrendously massive number of these types of workers. What do you want to do about it? You want to put them all out of…
The world is rife with stories of menial workers who were lured to international job roles that turned out to be lies. One common one is subcontinental workers lured to the gulf states to work on construction, and when they arrive they have their passports confiscated and a treated like slaves. Another common one is southeast Asian women lured to first-world countries and similarly tricked, but into sex slavery. These are the worst-case scenarios, but there's plenty of versions without the idea of 'slavery' - the international 'maid' industry, for example. A lot of south east Asians go to other countries and become maids, where they are frequently abused - and it's hard to get home when you haven't been paid since you arrived, may not have your passport, may be physically isolated, and don't speak the local language.
Ah, but no, "it's a job and someone's doing it, so clearly they were fully informed before they went in and no-one is exerting undue leverage over them"...
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well, they presumably weren't born into slavery only to be worked brutally hard then tortured and murdered by a slave owner, so i guess they're worthy of a sneer or two.
I'm not sneering at them. I'm objecting to the categorization of them as a victim being exploited. They're doing useful work and getting paid for it.
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I'm not sneering at them. I'm objecting to the categorization of them as a victim being exploited. They're doing useful work and getting paid for it.
you haven't established how that is necessarily not-exploitation.
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I don't mind Japan's system. You pay monthly to the government (about 10% of your income for a married couple with a child) then the government pays 70% of your medical bill out of that, no questions asked.
Do you have to pay if you're unemployed?
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you haven't established how that is necessarily not-exploitation.
Oh it is exploitation. It's not like there's a victim, though. The drivers likewise exploit Google's insufferable desire for street photography in exchange for cash.
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Until we have enough skilled workers in the world where we are regularly pumping out robots that can perform menial labour there will always be a need for this type of worker. We live in a time where hyper robot production is not happening, we also live in a time where actually there is a absolutely horrendously massive number of these types of workers. What do you want to do about it? You want to put them all out of…
Alternatively, you could simply vote with your wallet and not increase demand for exploitative industries. The world is rife with stories of menial workers who were lured to international job roles that turned out to be lies. One common one is subcontinental workers lured to the gulf states to work on construction, and when they arrive they have their passports confiscated and a treated like slaves. Another common on…