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And if you profit from Google stock/options/rsus/whatever, you're benefiting from this exploitation.
Those poor master's degree havers!
Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers
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#142This is why I am never ever going on a cruise ship (or any resort in Mexico, Dominican etc). Knowing that the guy serving you is basically a slave working for pennies while you are supposed to enjoy your vacation and relax- I couldn't, no thank you. What surprises me to this day is how little it costs to buy American congress. 1,000,000$ lobbying costs? That's less than a lot of houses in SF or NYC. Shouldn't it cost…
You realize that people work on cruise ships and in sweat shops because that is literally the best opportunity they have? Boycotting their meager employment will hardly make things better for them.
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#143Newsflash: Life sucks anywhere when you're poor and uneducated. I worked as an independent Google contractor before for less than $11 an hour with very stringent rules, ever increasing performance requirements, no holidays, no sick pay, no nothing. If you're poor and uneducated you're disposable dirt anywhere these days, even though people would like you to think otherwise and it's obviously even worse in 3rd world c…
What Google was doing to you is immoral, and should be illegal. Yes, 'it stinks' to have low wages because one might not have much of an education - but there's absolutely no reason on earth not to have 'basic worker protections'. I generally don't like Unions, especially those that are entrenched - but we wouldn't need them if people were not so greedy. Google does this a lot, and I find it despicable that they take…
Agreed. They fail to realize this and saving the world and ending disease is far more glamorous than actually treating your employees well. Its much the same with organizations that focus on helping people in other countries while ignoring the fact that there are starving, homeless people in their own backyard.
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Aside from the deductible, most insurance plans in the US cover only a percentage of costs. 80 or 90 percent is common. For a single, simple, surgery it's bearable. Something like cancer, with ct scans, chemo, radiation, surgery with a 1 week hospital stay, etc...can bankrupt you.
"Something like cancer, with ct scans, chemo, radiation, surgery with a 1 week hospital stay, etc...can bankrupt you." Again, I will have to disagree. Do you have any actual experience with this or are you going to just give me more talking points.... My wife's sister went through stage 2 breast cancer over the past 2 years and she had her own insurance plan as well. After 4 major surgeries and 1 year of chemo, her t…
There are millions of Americans who can't afford $250/mo on top of food, rent, and transportation costs, working more than full-time hours spread across several jobs, all of which pay minimum wage in poor conditions that are bad for their bodies and with unpredictable scheduling.
In light of the reality of many, many people's experiences in the healthcare system that are contrary to your own, which are NOT hard to find, your comments comes across quite poorly.
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You realize that people work on cruise ships and in sweat shops because that is literally the best opportunity they have? Boycotting their meager employment will hardly make things better for them.
Yeah, the reality we live in is a binary one where we must go along with exploitation of the poor, or we're killing them. Nothing else is possible.
What do you want to do about it? You want to put them all out of jobs so that companies are forced to spend more money developing robots? What? What is that going to solve? You act like people would rather not work. That's probably true but I hope you have a backup plan for them.
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You see exploitation, I see a market signal to high schoolers and undergraduates telling them we have enough graduate-level geographers, encouraging them to pursue something else and eventually making us all more prosperous in the future.
Is it a reliable signal?
To people who say "What's my passion in life and the rest of the world should subsidize it," not so much.
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You see exploitation, I see a market signal to high schoolers and undergraduates telling them we have enough graduate-level geographers, encouraging them to pursue something else and eventually making us all more prosperous in the future.
Sure, just two different ways of looking at the same thing. I personally view all employment as fundamental exploitation. Obviously you only hire employees with the intention to extract more value than what you give back in compensation. Some employers are downright extreme in this exercise. I'm not against all of it. I just appreciate viewing things from as many perspectives as possible, uncomfortable or not.
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"Financial planning", in the western sense of the phrase (saving currency, investing in stocks, mutual funds, life insurance, 401(k), and various other pieces of paper that require trust and courts to be worth anything) isn't actually a rational thing to do in emerging Asia (or, to the extent that it is now, that's very recent). We're talking about a country that was governed by a prolific kleptocrat (Ferdinand Marco…
Index funds, 401k and some stocks exist only in the USA. They don't exist in most of the western world (e.g. Europe). Please don't call that "western financial planning"
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Yeah, the reality we live in is a binary one where we must go along with exploitation of the poor, or we're killing them. Nothing else is possible.
Until we have enough skilled workers in the world where we are regularly pumping out robots that can perform menial labour there will always be a need for this type of worker. We live in a time where hyper robot production is not happening, we also live in a time where actually there is a absolutely horrendously massive number of these types of workers. What do you want to do about it? You want to put them all out of…
I say we change the trajectory of the future instead of embracing a nightmare of our own invention as an inevitability.