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> I wonder why they do this. The $$$ savings for the lesser hours are peanuts given the low wages. Only reason I can think of is to break the will of the workers. It's more about regulations I believe, if management can "prove" that you did not work more than the allowed hours, they cannot be fined for it.
Why can't you work more than 10 hours per day? Is that a labor law in ship's flag country?
Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers
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Re: Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers
#32But as the article pointed out, that choice of where you work can make a huge difference if anything goes wrong like an injury, and that's where none of the lines are really all that great. Even there while there are always new people they can hire, word does get out who to work for, and if your rep takes a fall because you treat people like crap, you won't be able to hire good people, and the guests will see the quality drop to point where revenue gets hit. Cruise ships are enormously expensive to run, and competition is strong. But my family has been on enough cruises to know who we would rather be on, and how decently they treat the employees is a good indication of whether you should spend a little more and get a better experience.
Re: Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers
#33Re: Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers
#34Newsflash: Life sucks anywhere when you're poor and uneducated. I worked as an independent Google contractor before for less than $11 an hour with very stringent rules, ever increasing performance requirements, no holidays, no sick pay, no nothing. If you're poor and uneducated you're disposable dirt anywhere these days, even though people would like you to think otherwise and it's obviously even worse in 3rd world c…
Wow, that's surprising. Was that position you're describing doing software development? Where were you based?
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What do you suggest that Filipino man does instead?
Found a startup, pitch on HN, get rich - c'mon man, get with the program !
I have about 6 cousins from the Philippines that are all around the world on various cruise ships, tankers, and cargo ships. Each one sending money back home, each one happy, they all love their jobs, and go back for reassignment.
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Wow, that's surprising. Was that position you're describing doing software development? Where were you based?
An unskilled operational role. I worked for outsourcers before as well doing support type jobs. Bad pay, ever increasing performance pressure, no benefits (no sick pay or health insurance), so if you got sick you were shit out of luck and healthcare was prohibitively expensive. Private insurance was available of course but these were all angle shooting companies in the affordable range that are barely better than hav…
Most western Europe has socialized medicine. Was health insurance as essential as in the USA?
Re: Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers
#37> The three logged their hours on the ship’s time-sheet software, called “Fun Time” (Carnival Cruise Line’s motto is the “Fun Ship”). But when the number exceeded ten hours, it appeared red on the screen. No matter how many extra hours they tapped in, their pay slips rarely showed that they worked more than ten or 11 hours a day. Regie didn’t understand why he wasn’t paid for the extra work, and when he asked managem…
Managers and supervisors always work for achievements, which are usually made on the back of the lower rungs by saving money and increasing performance by any means necessary.
Re: Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers
#38That's terrible man. $190/month as a dish washer $45/month as a waiter (with tips that could reach to 2k if you always work overtime and not complain about the lack of extra pay)
How does a dishwasher make tips?
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#39Re: Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers
#40Having rules is meaningless if you aren't trying to enforce them.