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The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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post #57

With every single news outlet taking polical position lately - it became intolerable to read or find somewhat objective news source. I don't mind paying <$10 / mo for clean no BS objective and detailed coverage.

That makes sense. But your pricing is unreasonable. I don't mind paying $10k for a Ferrari.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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The larger problem here is that unless they plan to have their Google search results all say "click here to pay" or similar, this entire scheme violates Google's cloaking policy and should result in their being deindexed. This has traditionally been the entire reason that sites offered this workaround - it wasn't out of the goodness of their hearts.

Here's hoping Google actually enforces their policy.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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The WSJ is a fantastic source of information. I no longer subscribe since I no longer live in the US but I easily made more money from the information in the paper than I paid in.

It was also very informative.

If you can't derive value from it, I understand all the trouble people go through to bypass it. It's just that I see that people's stated aims and revealed preferences are in contradiction. Everyone wants high quality news. No one seems to want to pay what it costs.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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post #57

With every single news outlet taking polical position lately - it became intolerable to read or find somewhat objective news source. I don't mind paying <$10 / mo for clean no BS objective and detailed coverage.

Is WSJ not a political news source? They're owned by News Corp and at least in the UK that conglomerate is responsible for the most politicised and polarising media.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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First of all, I think it's great that journalists can get compensated for their work. but, strictly speaking as a consumer, I must say their paywall is completely out of touch with the way I want to pay for news consumption. I don't mind paying 5c or even 10c per article, but I'm certainly not going to sign up to pay 120$ for 6 months, if I'm only going to read 1 or 2 articles here and there. but since they've done i…

So 15 minutes of entertainment time to you (the time spent consuming a WSJ article) is worth 5 or 10 cents? Imagine if you were compensated at the same rate for your work.

I suggest you try to find a substitute for those entertainment pennies. If you can, and that item is "free", good for you. But I doubt 5 or 10 cents gets you much.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Economist is the only news organ I have consistently found to be worth subscribing to, despite its faults. The stuff in it that you think you're not interested in is almost invariably worth knowing about.

I had a subscription to the Economist for years and was reader for much longer, but the content has gotten much worse and they insist on displaying video ads right in the middle of articles even if you pay for a subscription.

I have Economist subscription and U Block, never seen any video ads.

Why do you think the content has gotten worse?

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

#137

If anyone's looking for another workaround, the article actually hints at the solution: Facebook's l.php redirect that it uses when you click on a link shared through the platform. It functions similarly to the Google redirect, and you don't even need a Facebook account for it to work. E.g. https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https://www.wsj.com/article...

The only downside with this is that facebook gets a small amount of data about your browsing habbits.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The amount you want to pay for news is not anywhere close to the value it is providing you or that they make from ad revenue. What amount would be close to the value they make from ad revenue?

I would speculate they make between $5 - $20 CPM and they show 3-5 ads per article view. That puts the revenue between 1.5¢ and 10¢ per article pageview. Micropayment approaches and payment processor rates vary, but I'd generalize to probably 30% take rate. So assume 3.5¢ to 7¢ payment per article. Do you pay for every article you load? Do you pay again if you load the article twice? What if you don't like the articl…

> What if you don't like the article and don't want to pay?

YOu read the first free paragraph, if you like that you pay, if you dont like the rest of the article you dont get a refund since you have already consumed the article.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

#139
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of buying internet points for someone who figured out a little hack to access journalism, maybe you could instead pay for journalism?

A noble thought. My problem comes not from the fact that I don't want to pay but rather from the fact that it's super annoying. What if my browser could just say "article will be 25 cents?" and I could say y/n? But instead, I have to sign up for a service, hand over my credit card, blah blah, and now you've wasted enough of my time that it was worth just me stealing it. I'm pretty convinced it's just aUX thing.

Or, what if they promised to cancel your subscription at the end of the month.

As a good faith guarantee; if they failed to cancel your CC, they would reward you with say a $100.00?

I don't mind paying, but not reoccurring.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

#140

Out of curiosity I searched for the Wall Street Journal subscription page. I selected my country (UK) and then clicked on the subscription offer. I was then taken to a Hong Kong page with no obvious way of changing it back to the UK. If they want subscribers, they're going to have to do a better job than that.

I agree their pricing page is confusing. I just got information about a discount offer but its not clear how much is the full price after the discount.
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