Microsoft Allowed to Sue U.S. Government Over E-mail Surveillance
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#2It's very rare that I say this, but go Microsoft!
Re: Microsoft Allowed to Sue U.S. Government Over E-mail Surveillance
#3Microsoft has an interesting stance here. As EU entities are major customers for both Windows and Azure, they're working quite hard to make sure to assure these parties that the US Government doesn't have undue influence over them.
They're adding secure links and solutions they cannot eavesdrop on to Azure, and getting pretty aggressive with pushing back against US surveillance.
The US benefits from EU privacy laws even without being there.
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#4That the free speech arguments are going ahead is nice, but the judge also hammered another nail into the coffin of the 4th amendment:
Robart rejected the tech giant’s argument that the so-called sneak-and-peek searches amount to an unlawful search and seizure of property. Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch had argued that federal law allows the Justice Department to obtain electronic communications without disclosure of a specific warrant if it would endanger an individual or an investigation.
Re: Microsoft Allowed to Sue U.S. Government Over E-mail Surveillance
#5Microsoft has an interesting stance here. As EU entities are major customers for both Windows and Azure, they're working quite hard to make sure to assure these parties that the US Government doesn't have undue influence over them. They're adding secure links and solutions they cannot eavesdrop on to Azure, and getting pretty aggressive with pushing back against US surveillance. The US benefits from EU privacy laws e…
I agree with your analysis but what happens when China or a country like NK is the new economic powerhouse to please over EU ? Will US companies lobby the US the other way then ?
It's the Stallman argument again: don't defend privacy (free software) because it's convenient (hey, it's free and high tech enough), defend privacy because it's a principle that aligns with your ethics, not your economic interests.
Re: Microsoft Allowed to Sue U.S. Government Over E-mail Surveillance
#6That the free speech arguments are going ahead is nice, but the judge also hammered another nail into the coffin of the 4th amendment: Robart rejected the tech giant’s argument that the so-called sneak-and-peek searches amount to an unlawful search and seizure of property. Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch had argued that federal law allows the Justice Department to obtain electronic communications without disclo…
It takes more than a judge's comments to change a constitution.
Re: Microsoft Allowed to Sue U.S. Government Over E-mail Surveillance
#7That the free speech arguments are going ahead is nice, but the judge also hammered another nail into the coffin of the 4th amendment: Robart rejected the tech giant’s argument that the so-called sneak-and-peek searches amount to an unlawful search and seizure of property. Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch had argued that federal law allows the Justice Department to obtain electronic communications without disclo…
It takes more than a judge's comments to change a constitution.
True, but a judge's job is to interpret the Constitition.
Re: Microsoft Allowed to Sue U.S. Government Over E-mail Surveillance
#8Microsoft has an interesting stance here. As EU entities are major customers for both Windows and Azure, they're working quite hard to make sure to assure these parties that the US Government doesn't have undue influence over them. They're adding secure links and solutions they cannot eavesdrop on to Azure, and getting pretty aggressive with pushing back against US surveillance. The US benefits from EU privacy laws e…
I agree with your analysis but what happens when China or a country like NK is the new economic powerhouse to please over EU ? Will US companies lobby the US the other way then ? It's the Stallman argument again: don't defend privacy (free software) because it's convenient (hey, it's free and high tech enough), defend privacy because it's a principle that aligns with your ethics, not your economic interests.
I think the other way to look at it is this:
Doing good things for bad reasons is better than doing bad things for bad reasons, even if it's not as good as doing good things for good reasons.
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#9I wonder how this will play out in other tech arenas.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
It takes more than a judge's comments to change a constitution.
True, but a judge's job is to interpret the Constitition.
Sure, but different judges are free to interpret the constitution without reference to specific interpretations. Therefore, it's not a nail in the coffin of the 4th amendment, it's just a temporary misuse (IMO).