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The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Post by sgt101 »

pascalxus wrote: post #4

First of all, I think it's great that journalists can get compensated for their work. but, strictly speaking as a consumer, I must say their paywall is completely out of touch with the way I want to pay for news consumption. I don't mind paying 5c or even 10c per article, but I'm certainly not going to sign up to pay 120$ for 6 months, if I'm only going to read 1 or 2 articles here and there. but since they've done i…

I'd be happy to buy an issue at a time - I think $.5 would be a fair price given that there is no printing cost and that the advertising is more valuable as it's micro targeted to me. I'd buy an issue to read a particular article or because I want one to read for general amusement.

Subscription feels like monogamy, I've got lots of different things to spend cash on, I don't want to commit at this scale to spending it on things I may not want.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Post by sgt101 »

bonniemuffin wrote: post #25
EduardoBautista wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://blendle.com/ seems to meet your needs.

This is exactly how I want to support journalism & consume news. I don't want to commit to a single source of news, but I'm happy to pay per use.

But this is another layer of intermediation without value add - these people are basically journalist taxing, and isn't this another place where smart folks are effectively deciding what other people want to read?

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Post by seanp2k2 »

jcoffland wrote: post #55

I prefer Reuters. They seem to have less bias, their articles are free and many stories at other news outlets are bought from Reuters anyway.

There's also AP.org http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/fronts/RAW?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME

Many news agencies are just editorializing AP news anyway.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Post by civility »

teej wrote: post #75
sbierwagen wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's say you're standing in a field strewn with gold bars. A man comes up to you and offers to sell you a gold bar for $400,000. You point out that you are standing among hundreds of gold bars, all of them free for the taking. He points out that it was a lot of hard work extracting gold from thousands of tons of ore, casting it, assaying it, etc. Just because something cost a lot to make, doesn't mean it's worth a l…

But I don't live in a world surrounded by gold bars. I live in a world where news comes from Buzzfeed and CNN and Fox News and less scrupulous "news" organizations who are only looking towards the next eyeball. I am surrounded by bars of iron. Your parable simply doesn't match the world I live in.

Consider BBC, Al Jazeera, MIT News, and many many others. I won't say those are all gold, but they aren't lead.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Post by maverick_iceman »

pascalxus wrote: post #4

First of all, I think it's great that journalists can get compensated for their work. but, strictly speaking as a consumer, I must say their paywall is completely out of touch with the way I want to pay for news consumption. I don't mind paying 5c or even 10c per article, but I'm certainly not going to sign up to pay 120$ for 6 months, if I'm only going to read 1 or 2 articles here and there. but since they've done i…

They need to go iTunes way and unbundle payments for individual articles. The past has shown that people will pay for quality contents. Also they need to make the payment UI super efficient. If I have to take out my credit card every time then forget it.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Post by leereeves »

sethhochberg wrote: post #80
Taek wrote: post #77

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A noble thought. My problem comes not from the fact that I don't want to pay but rather from the fact that it's super annoying. What if my browser could just say "article will be 25 cents?" and I could say y/n? But instead, I have to sign up for a service, hand over my credit card, blah blah, and now you've wasted enough of my time that it was worth just me stealing it. I'm pretty convinced it's just aUX thing.

See, I look at this the exact opposite way - if I have to decide whether each individual article is worth paying for, I'm probably not going to read any articles. Its much easier for me to pay $10 a month and know that I can, with zero friction, read whatever article I want from the publications I respect. We're talking about the Wall Street Journal here; odds that they're going to only occasionally publish something…

For me, subscriptions are a deal breaker. Whenever possible, I avoid signing up for a recurring fee for something I only use occasionally.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Post by dflock »

Taek wrote: post #77
oconnore wrote: post #61

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Instead of buying internet points for someone who figured out a little hack to access journalism, maybe you could instead pay for journalism?

A noble thought. My problem comes not from the fact that I don't want to pay but rather from the fact that it's super annoying. What if my browser could just say "article will be 25 cents?" and I could say y/n? But instead, I have to sign up for a service, hand over my credit card, blah blah, and now you've wasted enough of my time that it was worth just me stealing it. I'm pretty convinced it's just aUX thing.

The Brave web browser has this built in, more or less. You give it bitcoin and it does micropayments for content you read. You can set max amounts, etc...

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Post by soVeryTired »

Another way to get around many paywalls is to change your browser's user agent string to 'Googlebot'. I've got a subscription to the Financial Times, but if there's a one-off article somewhere else that I want to read, that's my go-to method for getting through a paywall. I wonder if their fix will close it off too.

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Post by noobermin »

Gargoyle wrote: post #88
SturgeonsLaw wrote: post #85

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I wouldn't want a single cent of my money going to that bottom feeder Rupert Murdoch

Then don't read articles on a site he owns.

It is a small conundrum, I don't particularly like Murdoch either, but his paper is well regarded and many important pieces have appeared there (like op-ed from public figures for example), and I miss out when I can't have access to WSJ articles.

I wish there were a way to buy access to individual articles .

Re: The Wall Street Journal to Close Google Loophole Entirely

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Post by wtf_is_up »

brokenmasonjars wrote: post #67
wtf_is_up wrote: post #36

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If you're a student, WSJ has a plan for $50/yr.

Always worth checking the school library database first as it might be available for free (well, 'free'... not including tuition..)

I hadn't considered that, but you're right. I was able to find fresh WSJ and Economist for "free" on ProQuest. I still prefer the format of the WSJ site/app, but this could work just as well.
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