Everyone knows that most H1-B visas are used up by Indian firms for Indian nationals. Not by American firms for international talent. All the politicians have known about this abuse for years but this part of US foreign policy and lobby group efforts. India is a considered a natural ally against China and the Muslims.
H-1B visas mainly go to Indian outsourcing firms
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#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
And it disproves OP's other point (the one he even highlighted in italics): > None of those salaries listed are competitive with what a non-H1B (read citizen or permanent resident) would earn.
However it still leaves the impression that H1Bs are doing more bad than good
Maybe if you have an agenda against H-1Bs. Otherwise it looks like they just pay them the normal amount.
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#333This one sentence says it all: "The Economist found that between 2012 and 2015 the three biggest Indian outsourcing firms—TCS, Wipro and Infosys—submitted over 150,000 visa applications for positions that paid a median salary of $69,500. In contrast, America’s five biggest tech firms—Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Google and Microsoft—submitted just 31,000 applications, and proposed to pay their workers a median salary of…
You're comparing the average salary of all H-1B jobs (developer, accountant, analyst, etc.) to the salary of a developer. Instead, look at the average salaries for H-1B software engineers in 2016: Facebook @ Menlo Park: $152k Google @ Mountain View: $130k Apple @ Cupertino: $154k Amazon @ Seattle: $124k Microsoft @ Redmond: $120 So comparing base salary alone, these companies are definitely not underpaying their H-1B…
Infosys pays a sub-par salary of $52k to a systems engineer in Sunnyvale California: http://h1bpay.com/companies/Infosys/cities/Sunnyvale-CA/job-...
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#334Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is the incentive system. I have never been known for my lack of directness and in given so, I used to work with an Indian developer who was very good at his job. So one day I just flat out asked him, I said Karthick why do a good portion of Indian developers suck, his response floored me. Without missing a beat he responded, look it's a misaligned incentive system. When I go back to India the first questi…
As a current CS student from India, I can completely back this theory. Most in my class are very sure they want to pursue a career in Computer Science, but have little to say if you ask them why. A good fraction of them, every year, end up joining consultancy firms in nontechnical roles, or (what I hate more) in HR - and are perfectly fine with it. Computers in India are not associated with the amazing feeling most o…
Can confirm all of the above.
I study in an average college in India, and it seems the only motivation for studying computer science is to get a "lucrative" job at an outsourcing company. Getting a job at an top outsourcing company is considered pretty respectful by all of society.
The interviews are pretty rough too. The screening is done based on an aptitude quiz (it's an entirely different thing that is hardly related to the CS curriculum) and once you crack that, the "smartness" factor gets involved. I have had people confess to me that they got the job just because their english speaking skills were good.
A lot of this is due to the fact, which I think is the primary motivation, that the salaries offered at these companies are actually quite high compared to other markets, all you have to do is shell out four years somehow. This leads to students not even caring about computer science as a subject, but a ticket to the "IT dream", if you will.
Also, note that this represents the "average" colleges of India, which is what most of India is filled with. The demand for studying engineering becomes higher every year, and to cope up with that, engineering colleges are built of nowhere with no real regard for education.
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#335Everyone knows that most H1-B visas are used up by Indian firms for Indian nationals. Not by American firms for international talent. All the politicians have known about this abuse for years but this part of US foreign policy and lobby group efforts. India is a considered a natural ally against China and the Muslims.
> Everyone knows that most H1-B visas are used up by Indian firms for Indian nationals. Not by American firms for international talent.
Indians are "international". Or did you mean that only Europeans qualify?
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#336Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Slovenia an engineer with 10 years of experience makes $24,000/year. In Silicon Valley an engineer with 0.5 years of experience makes $100,000/year. Gee, I wonder why businesses want to employ foreigners and why foreigners want to work for US companies. Hmmmmm
Exactly. Running a business is nightmare. Sometimes I wished I was in the 9-5 daily grind. Top that with asking to pay more than market rates and most startups would collapse. 44% of unicorn startups in Silicon Valley employ H1b or were started by them. And a lot of them Iran too(which was strangely banned by Trump)
Are you referring to unicorn startups funded with venture capital money? Most of those companies don't have to worry about being profitable in the near short term (<2 years). Snap Inc. raised $2.5 billion dollars or so and has around 300 employees. I'm having a hard time believing a company that raised over $2 billion dollars, has 300 employees and doesn't have to worry about turning a profit will run out of business if they paid their software developers market rates.
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#337Earlier quoted context omitted.
So that is how the free market works your not one of those gosh darned socialists are you :-) And I suspect that for a "brown" skinned persons the south is not exactly a welcoming environment.
Big cities in the South are liberal oases. Houston, TX had a lesbian mayor till last year, who got married legally while in office.
I'd rather live in a liberal area where I can be myself, than have boring/inconsequential/fake/superficial conversations about BBQ, football, weather etc.
Source: Lived in Dallas and Austin for 7 years.
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#338This just confirms that H-1B visa is yet another piece of corporate welfare pushed through by lobbyists for the benefit of large corporations at the expense of small businesses and the middle class.
My small software business can't compete with slave labor from India that large corporations with an army of lawyers can acquire.
Just one of the many reasons that self-employment and small businesses are struggling against a tide of complicated regulations and legislation and immigration meant to crush the workers and small businesses.
As you can see, self-employment has been on a steady downward trend since 1967: https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2010/09/art2full.pdf
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#339Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The reason college tuition is so high is because the government backs those loans. This is patently false. Which nullifies the rest of your suggestion.
https://studentloans.gov suggests otherwise. They are called subsidized loans. More data here: https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/loans/subsidized-unsubsid...
I am not debating the existence of subsidized loans. I am questioning the correlation b/w subsidized loans and high tuition which you seem to be making.
e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/05/opinion/sunday/the-real-r...
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#340I can confirm my employer pays me at or above market rate. I am on H1B, but never been part of the outsourcing firms.