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I'm calling out the schools this time because when I submitted a post titled "YC Winter Tour 2016" last year, this is how it performed on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10881402 .
Is there a requirement that YC announcements perform well? I'm not trying to be negative, but just announce all the tours the same way and let people make of it what they will.
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These schools are actually some of the most affordable in the country due to their extremely generous financial aid. Poor families pay nothing and even middle class families have minimal contributions. (For example, all of the elite universities I was accepted to cost less than my state school would have.)
Now if only poor people could get educational equality in the 13 years prior to college :-/
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We try to mix it up. Here's where we went last winter: https://blog.ycombinator.com/winter-2016-college-tour/ . And last fall: https://blog.ycombinator.com/yc-office-hours-in-11-countries...
Will you be visiting Georgia Tech this year?
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I was just going to ask this. Silicon valley would be better served (and better serve others) when they stop giving hand service to the same schools they they went to and the people who think and act exactly like them.
Top schools attract a disproportionate of intelligent young people. Ignoring that would be stupid.
Top schools scrape off a tiny cohort of the wealthiest and best college-prepped among the smartest. The other 97% of the smartest are, well, not at top schools.
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Being set up for success is different than being inherently intelligent. Who YC chooses to give separate attention does deserve scrutiny.
> Being set up for success is different than being inherently intelligent. Sure, but you're arguing against a straw man. It's simply objectively true that students at elite are on average much smarter than students at other schools, and more ambitious. They're much more likely to have a viable YC application. In fact, students who get into elite schools but don't attend them still far out-perform students who never g…
P(smart | elite school) != P(elite school | smart)
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#37What about the other 99% of talented students that couldn't afford these schools?
These schools are actually some of the most affordable in the country due to their extremely generous financial aid. Poor families pay nothing and even middle class families have minimal contributions. (For example, all of the elite universities I was accepted to cost less than my state school would have.)
Except they do not lower the admissions requirements for poor kid that attended sub-par secondary schools. These are the exact kids that would be excluded admissions (in most cases) because third rate secondary school prep does not compare to the prep a student obtains at Phillips Exeter Academy.
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Through need based financial aid, these schools are very affordable for many of those students.
The marketing departments at these schools have done wonders. People whose families have modest incomes of 100-150k annually are going to pay a very large sum of money to attend these schools. It is only the very poor and very wealthy who do not have issues funding their education at one of these schools.
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#39The Penn link links to MIT, bug or feature?
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> Being set up for success is different than being inherently intelligent. Sure, but you're arguing against a straw man. It's simply objectively true that students at elite are on average much smarter than students at other schools, and more ambitious. They're much more likely to have a viable YC application. In fact, students who get into elite schools but don't attend them still far out-perform students who never g…
>It's simply objectively true that students at elite are on average much smarter than students at other schools, and more ambitious. P(smart | elite school) != P(elite school | smart)
I feel like people on HN have a giant chip on their shoulder when it comes to top schools. They're filled with lots of very smart students and ignoring that is ridiculous.
Nowhere do I pretend that all smart kids are at top schools, or even that the majority is. But if I wanted to select a school to go to with the highest average IQ it would definitely be an elite school.
It's not like everyone is buying their way into elite schools. I certainly didn't, nor did many of my classmates.