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Re: Introducing Keybase Chat

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Post by x1798DE »

The continued fragmentation of chat into walled gardens is really annoying. I feel like Matrix has done a good job not only designing their protocol to be open and federated from the start, but also in that they are actively working to provide bridges to other services. It would be really nice if keybase would work to federate with Matrix servers.

(Link to Matrix service, since they have an un-googleable name: https://matrix.org. The only working client that I know of at the moment is https://riot.im)

Re: Introducing Keybase Chat

#102

Post by nihonde »

adambrenecki wrote: post #40
Meph504 wrote: post #32

Umm has anyone read the lisc. for this application? https://keybase.io/docs/terms When providing Keybase or the Service with content, such as your name, username, photos, social media names, data or files, or causing content to be posted, stored or transmitted using or through the Service (“Your Content”), including but not limited to the Registration Data and any other personal identification information that you pr…

> in connection with our provision of the Service. This is pretty much boilerplate legalese that's generally intended to mean "you can't upload a file to your public folder, then sue us for copyright infringement because that file is in a public folder". Lawyers seem like to cover their clients' asses as much as possible, but for a service like this that's designed for privacy-conscious people it'd do them well to st…

What you're describing is "for the sole purpose of proving the service to you". The "in connection with" language is much broader. Whether the license is intended to give them more leeway or not is a different question.

Re: Introducing Keybase Chat

#103

Post by jsmthrowaway »

nannal wrote: post #96
oddevan wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is really cool. Question: right now, I have a [deep link to Keybase's encrypt page][1] on my website as "Create encrypted message." Will there be a way to do something similar, but using Keybase Chat(tm)? ("build it yourself" is an acceptable answer in this instance) [1]: https://keybase.io/encrypt#oddevan

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Considering that HN does not preserve envelope formatting, that more than one person reads HN, and that scrolling through this on my phone was really fun, perhaps PGP messages are not a good idea regardless of how on-topic or clever they are.

Re: Introducing Keybase Chat

#104

Post by mynameisvlad »

fiatjaf wrote: post #89
mynameisvlad wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a backup key in case you lose access to all your other devices. That way, you don't have to rekey all your services if you lose it and access to all your devices, like I did. Protip: Use the paper key. Keep it safe. You never know when you'll have to use it.

But I can still rekey everything using my master password and the encrypted private key is still stored on keybase's servers, right? (or something like that) I'm going to lose the paper key just like I lost my 5 BTC wallet just before the great Bitcoin boom of 2013.

Depends on how you set up the key initially. I don't know if it's still possible, but at some point in the past you could specify your own master key that isn't stored on their servers. My account was one of those, so once I lost access to my computers/paper key, I also had lost access to the PHP key and therefore had to essentially start fresh.

The only pain is that you have to re-verify all your services.

Re: Introducing Keybase Chat

#105

Post by rabidrat »

zokier wrote: post #45
rabidrat wrote: post #21

I would love to have a linux curses client for encrypted chat. Something that irssi can connect to, perhaps?

Something like irssi-otr? https://github.com/cryptodotis/irssi-otr

That's great, but I also need a web client for friends who can't use irssi.

Re: Introducing Keybase Chat

#106

Post by mxuribe »

Arathorn wrote: post #80
mxuribe wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for confirming. I've been using the riot.im client over the matrix protocol, and while not yet the most mature comms stack, I appreciate that it is not based on a centralized server (i.e. i can and do self-host). My hope is that keybase can be made to be decentralized and that i can self-host. ..Or that its good features can be merged somehow with the best features of the matrix protocol.

i'm wondering which features would ideally make it over to Matrix? it feels there is parity already (other than perhaps defining PFS messages as 'exploding'?)

Good question/point...I guess I should have dived into the features of both and seen for myself (instead of assuming that the shiny new thing has better features)! ;-)

Re: Introducing Keybase Chat

#107

Post by lwhsiao »

mjewkes wrote: post #97
Walkman wrote: post #90

This is the last time I spam a Keybase thread with invite codes :) https://keybase.io/inv/6953921e2f https://keybase.io/inv/637bfd5d42 https://keybase.io/inv/20be67f672

Do you have any more? Looking for an invite :)

https://keybase.io/inv/1c385d4ff6

Re: Introducing Keybase Chat

#110

Post by wslh »

wslh wrote: post #79
NickBusey wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. The whole point of the app is to have a verifiable chat with people whom you have also verified the identity of. Without an account, this verification is not possible.

This should be clear in the first blog line, it is not a public service and it says "TL;DR: Install it".

I didn't realize that keybase is open to everyone now. The downvotes gave me the information subliminally.
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