Very sad day indeed. One of the few online services I was more then happy to pay for.
nzbmatrix is excellent.
Newzbin (paid usenet search engine) closes due to legal action
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Re: Newzbin (paid usenet search engine) closes due to legal action
#12Since details seem very lacking between the link and the post in the link, here's a short summary Newzbin via Wikiepdia: "One of the main technologies produced is an XML-based file format called NZB files, which contain a list of messageIDs that are related to specific postings on Usenet. Through the use of these files, Usenet clients are able to directly download material from Usenet without having to pre-fetch the…
I don't know how they get away with this. Google links almost exclusively to copyrighted content, but they're not shut down. Why is Google allowed to exist and other indexes aren't?
Google linking to illegally distributed material is incidental - the only similarity is that TPB/etc linking to legally distributable material is also incidental.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
the first rule of usenet... don't talk about usenet
the second rule of usenet... don't talk about usenet. Thats what killed the big H...
The Big Red H? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotline_Communications
Re: Newzbin (paid usenet search engine) closes due to legal action
#14Fuck. I love usnet, I hope this isn't the start of a trend
Nah, usnet is overrated, themnet is where it's at!
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know how they get away with this. Google links almost exclusively to copyrighted content, but they're not shut down. Why is Google allowed to exist and other indexes aren't?
Google linking to illegally distributed material is incidental - the only similarity is that TPB/etc linking to legally distributable material is also incidental.
You're comparing Usenet to The Pirate Bay? One is one of the oldest communications standards on the Internet and the other one is The Pirate Bay.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google linking to illegally distributed material is incidental - the only similarity is that TPB/etc linking to legally distributable material is also incidental.
You're comparing Usenet to The Pirate Bay? One is one of the oldest communications standards on the Internet and the other one is The Pirate Bay.
He is comparing torrent indexing sites to usenet indexing sites.
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You're comparing Usenet to The Pirate Bay? One is one of the oldest communications standards on the Internet and the other one is The Pirate Bay.
He is comparing torrent indexing sites to usenet indexing sites.
Is there evidence that there was any effort on the part of Newzbin or its users to focus the site's resources on illegal material? My impression of the service was that it indexed a large swath of Usenet impartially. Compare this to The Pirate Bay, whose users ask it to track illegal content more often than not. Unless you have evidence that Newzbin specifically targeted illegal material, he is equating Usenet with pirated media.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
He is comparing torrent indexing sites to usenet indexing sites.
Is there evidence that there was any effort on the part of Newzbin or its users to focus the site's resources on illegal material? My impression of the service was that it indexed a large swath of Usenet impartially. Compare this to The Pirate Bay, whose users ask it to track illegal content more often than not. Unless you have evidence that Newzbin specifically targeted illegal material, he is equating Usenet with p…
Well there's the bit where a court found them to be guilty of doing just that.
Then there's the bit where as a messageboard it's long been superceded by forums and other forms of communication.
Then there's the bit where according to wikipedia over 5 terabytes a day of binaries get posted, and although I have no evidence somehow I don't think that's linux isos.
Then there's popular culture which constantly touts it as some kind of exclusive club 'the man' mustn't learn about because that way it'll stay 'safe' to use.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there evidence that there was any effort on the part of Newzbin or its users to focus the site's resources on illegal material? My impression of the service was that it indexed a large swath of Usenet impartially. Compare this to The Pirate Bay, whose users ask it to track illegal content more often than not. Unless you have evidence that Newzbin specifically targeted illegal material, he is equating Usenet with p…
Well there's the bit where a court found them to be guilty of doing just that. Then there's the bit where as a messageboard it's long been superceded by forums and other forms of communication. Then there's the bit where according to wikipedia over 5 terabytes a day of binaries get posted, and although I have no evidence somehow I don't think that's linux isos. Then there's popular culture which constantly touts it a…
A court did not find them guilty of doing just that. A court found them guilty of knowingly profiting from copyright infringement. If I sell off my grandfather's estate, which I know to include a fake Rolex, I would also have knowingly profited from copyright infringement, but I don't think you would say that an estate sale is also equivalent to The Pirate Bay.