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Is Firefox Headed Towards A Massive Decline? Its Co-Founder Thinks So

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Re: Is Firefox Headed Towards A Massive Decline? Its Co-Founder Thinks So

#41

Plus, Mozilla's business model is basically done for. With Google providing a Firefox competitor, how long do you really think it will be before Google pulls their deal with Mozilla to give them money per search via the search box?

Yahoo?

Re: Is Firefox Headed Towards A Massive Decline? Its Co-Founder Thinks So

#42
post #7

I want to switch to Chrome but I can't live without a Firefox addon - tree style tab.

Agreed. Tree-style tabs is just too dreamy. Though I do find myself bringing up Chrome for things like Wave, so I have Firefox up for day-to-day research/etc, and Chrome for quick things and high-JS web apps.

Re: Is Firefox Headed Towards A Massive Decline? Its Co-Founder Thinks So

#43

Two things hold me back from using Chrome on OS X: 1) Chrome's many non-standard (and ugly) UI elements. Especially the dropdown menus in the bookmarks bar. 2) Firebug - Webkit's web inspector still isn't quite there yet. Otherwise I would switch to Chrome in a heartbeat :D

I sincerely hope with #1 you are comparing Chrome to Safari and not Firefox.

Re: Is Firefox Headed Towards A Massive Decline? Its Co-Founder Thinks So

#44
post #36

I don't know about massive decline, but they are definitely not setting the pace anymore, and they have lost a lot of their "geek halo". I bet a lot of technical people are now recommending/installing Chrome on non-techy people's computers, and over time that adds up.

Can chrome handle mathml yet? Edit: I just downloaded gc beta for linux, and the answer is: NO. And SVG is downright ugly (but it animates ok with javascript). It was wicked fast, though.

It's sad not having MathML support in WebKit. It means that I still need Firefox on my Win7 and Ubuntu machines and that I'm screwed on the iPod Touch.

Re: Is Firefox Headed Towards A Massive Decline? Its Co-Founder Thinks So

#45
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you need a search bar in Chrome? Just type what you want into the "address" bar, and it will search your default search engine.

You don't need a search bar in chrome, just type the address of the site you want to search with and hit TAB. Example: youtu+TAB and then enter your keyword. Works with every site that support opensearch. en.wiki+TAB will search wikipedia etc.

Slight correction: works with sites that support opensearch and that you previously have visited.

Re: Is Firefox Headed Towards A Massive Decline? Its Co-Founder Thinks So

#46

How can they not point out the elephant in the room? Not having H.264 support is a deal-killer for some users, and this is going to increase. As a user, this means I either see HTML5 video as broken, or I get noticeably worse quality at the same bit-rate. This is symbolic of internal forces in the product leading to decisions that no users actually want.

I think that external forces (patent restrictions) are as much an issue as internal forces. Choosing to adhere to Free software principles and avoid legally risky (for Firefox), patented technology is just as valid a strategy as licensing the codec and using closed source bits (Chrome).

Re: Is Firefox Headed Towards A Massive Decline? Its Co-Founder Thinks So

#47
post #2

Everyone that I know are using Chrome right now, except guys like me that like to tweak their browsers (something that Chrome fails miserably) and some extensions that sadly does not fit well into Chrome architecture. The other major problem (a search bar) was partly solved by Duck Duck Go.

I wouldn't say Chrome fails miserably at browser tweaking, but maybe I don't do enough tweaking myself. What exactly are you trying to do that Chrome won't let you do?

cache size, something close to about:config would be nice

Re: Is Firefox Headed Towards A Massive Decline? Its Co-Founder Thinks So

#48
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you need a search bar in Chrome? Just type what you want into the "address" bar, and it will search your default search engine.

You don't need a search bar in chrome, just type the address of the site you want to search with and hit TAB. Example: youtu+TAB and then enter your keyword. Works with every site that support opensearch. en.wiki+TAB will search wikipedia etc.

thanks, but now I use Duck Duck Go and bangs for the same functionality, and I love it, I also use it as my main search engine

Re: Is Firefox Headed Towards A Massive Decline? Its Co-Founder Thinks So

#49
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right now, Chrome is visibly faster for me. I keep hearing about fantastic new improvements to the Firefox JS engine and other components but in practice they don't seem to have amounted to much. ... (Hmm, before making that assertion I'd better test it, test test test)... Well, perhaps I should amend that to "up until very recently, Chrome was visibly faster". As it happens I just went from Firefox 3.5 to 3.6 on thi…

On both my home Ubuntu system and my work Windows XP system, Firefox and Chrome are about the same speed and the same memory footprint. However, I can't deny that Chrome subjectively feels snappier to use.

Chrome subjectively feels snappier

Right, and why would anything else matter for a web browser?

Re: Is Firefox Headed Towards A Massive Decline? Its Co-Founder Thinks So

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post #8
post #2

Everyone that I know are using Chrome right now, except guys like me that like to tweak their browsers (something that Chrome fails miserably) and some extensions that sadly does not fit well into Chrome architecture. The other major problem (a search bar) was partly solved by Duck Duck Go.

Why do you need a search bar in Chrome? Just type what you want into the "address" bar, and it will search your default search engine.

I really hate to not search directly on the service that I need, such as gamefaqs, jstor or arxiv
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