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Re: The most mentioned books on Stack Overflow

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>, the good old Design Patterns book, responsible for more atrocious over-abstracted, This is a misunderstanding of the DP book. It would be similar to saying that the existence of TVTropes.com is responsible for terrible scripts of tv shows and movies. Or, the existence of the Oxford English Dictionary is responsible for bad novels and useless documentation. The DP book is a catalog (to gain awareness) and not a che…

> >, the good old Design Patterns book, responsible for more atrocious over-abstracted, > This is a misunderstanding of the DP book. It is discussing an effect of the book, not the intent . > It would be similar to saying that the existence of TVTropes.com is responsible for terrible scripts of tv shows and movies. Which would be entirely accurate if script writers were widely using TVTropes pages as templates and cr…

>It is discussing an effect of the book, not the intent.

Do you truly believe that specific DP book caused that effect?

I don't. The DP book is extremely dry reading and most programmers have not actually read it. ([In terms of readership/ownership ratio] It's a book like Stephen Hawking's "Brief History of Time" ... everybody knows about it and some might have it on the coffee table but very few actually read it.)

I do think the _phrase_ of "design patterns" (not the book) has become a sort of gravitational force such that any discussion about "overcomplicated design" seems to fall toward that particular phrase. Or put differently, "bad designs" is now a synonym of "design patterns" so much so such that you can't even say "design pattern" and have it be interpreted as a neutral term. It's become a trigger word.

>Which would be entirely accurate if script writers were widely using TVTropes pages as templates and creating bad scripts

Yes, I agree that would be equivalent. However, I don't think the existence of tvtropes compels directors like Michael Bay to repeat the "walk away calmly from explosion in the background" scene. The motivation to repeat that "cinematic pattern" comes from somewhere else. Likewise, the majority of bad/overcomplicated abstractions in source code come from somewhere else besides that particular DP book.

Re: The most mentioned books on Stack Overflow

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post #24

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I'm not sure I see what's wrong with this. The author obviously invested work in this and provided a resource others may find useful. You're free not to buy books through their affiliate links.

Did I say with one word that I find OP's work wrong? Where did you read this? Why are you so negative? It's great what the OP did and I am really interested in his sales (and he already gave some insights, he's a great guy)

When you say something like "nice affiliate hack" it comes with an implication that it's wrong, because a lot of people on the Internet try to trick others into clicking their affiliate links.

Re: The most mentioned books on Stack Overflow

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People who make these Amazon referral farm sites, is anyone willing to share how much money they make off theirs? Maybe like a $ per 100 pageviews stat or something? I'm curious.

I will publish results on site after a while. Yesterday I've made same post on reddit, 5 books were ordered.

Re: The most mentioned books on Stack Overflow

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This is like Hacker News Book [1].

But, it scraps user comments that contain Amazon book link from HN and orders them by theirs point. If you wonder how much money Hacker News Book has been made, I would suggest to read this post [2]. The different part with this is that Hacker News Book shows not only the most mentioned books all the time but also per week. Hacker News Book has more diversity of book topics since HN is not limited for programming discussions.

Anyway, I just want to say congratz to the OP for launching this. I think you miss "Show HN" on your post title.

[1]: http://hackernewsbooks.com/

[2]: http://hackernewsbooks.com/blog/making-1000-dollars-in-5-day...

Re: The most mentioned books on Stack Overflow

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did I say with one word that I find OP's work wrong? Where did you read this? Why are you so negative? It's great what the OP did and I am really interested in his sales (and he already gave some insights, he's a great guy)

When you say something like "nice affiliate hack" it comes with an implication that it's wrong, because a lot of people on the Internet try to trick others into clicking their affiliate links.

Its OK to use the word "hack" on "hackernews"... negative connotation is not automatic here !

Re: The most mentioned books on Stack Overflow

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post #16
post #12

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> "if someone were to write a "modern design patterns" book" Based on my recollection of the original Design Patterns book, all of the patterns you list are included in the original book. Caveat: I haven't opened the book in over 5 years, but I'd be surprised to learn that any of the 6 patterns you list are not in the original DP.

What i listed was just an example but you can verify quickly - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0201633612/?tag=devbookscom20-20 without opening the actual book. And afaict - none of the patterns I listed are mentioned verbatim.

Seems like MVC is treated in GoF. http://blog.iandavis.com/2008/12/what-are-the-benefits-of-mv...

Re: The most mentioned books on Stack Overflow

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post #14

No Ruby on Rails books? Or Python?

But lots of C++ books. C++ and Python are my primary languages, and I own far more C++ books than Python. For C++ I've got all Scott Meyers stuff, Alexandrescu, Stroustrups C++ language. For Python I've got Beazley, and that's it. My guess is that Python, and probably Ruby too, are so much easier to learn than C++, so fewer books are read and sold.

I don't grant the premise that fewer Ruby and Python books are sold... Regardless, the number sold is greater than 1 so they should really be listed in the app.

Re: The most mentioned books on Stack Overflow

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post #51

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> >, the good old Design Patterns book, responsible for more atrocious over-abstracted, > This is a misunderstanding of the DP book. It is discussing an effect of the book, not the intent . > It would be similar to saying that the existence of TVTropes.com is responsible for terrible scripts of tv shows and movies. Which would be entirely accurate if script writers were widely using TVTropes pages as templates and cr…

>It is discussing an effect of the book, not the intent. Do you truly believe that specific DP book caused that effect? I don't. The DP book is extremely dry reading and most programmers have not actually read it. ([In terms of readership/ownership ratio] It's a book like Stephen Hawking's "Brief History of Time" ... everybody knows about it and some might have it on the coffee table but very few actually read it.) I…

A very weird comparison, the brief history of time is a popular science book aimed at laymen, it sacrifices precision for a larger audience and is not really a dry book.
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