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Why many Indian politicians have a criminal record

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Re: Why many Indian politicians have a criminal record

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There are some comments in this thread bringing out examples of corruption in the West. While Western societies are by no means perfect and have their own warts, they are much better than India when it comes to corruption, effective judiciary, free press or tolerance for scandals. People typically vote with their feet. If you have any doubts about which society treats its citizens better, just look at how many Indian…

If people voted with their feet, how do you explain Bush and Trump ?

Re: Why many Indian politicians have a criminal record

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> In fact even the prime Minister modi was on a mass murdering case of Gujarat 2002. He was the chief minister when the riots Happened!! That guy has still not even apologized or said sorry to the families whose people were killed. I think you should stop whatever you are doing and get appointed as a judge in the Supreme Court of India. Obviously you know so much more than what they know or have deduced about crimina…

did you not read the word 'was' ? Im not saying he is a mass murderer. Im only saying he was on the case for long. Your insecurity about this only makes me even more suspicious.

Then why should he say sorry?

Re: Why many Indian politicians have a criminal record

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> In fact even the prime Minister modi was on a mass murdering case of Gujarat 2002. He was the chief minister when the riots Happened!! That guy has still not even apologized or said sorry to the families whose people were killed. I think you should stop whatever you are doing and get appointed as a judge in the Supreme Court of India. Obviously you know so much more than what they know or have deduced about crimina…

did you not read the word 'was' ? Im not saying he is a mass murderer. Im only saying he was on the case for long. Your insecurity about this only makes me even more suspicious.

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Re: Why many Indian politicians have a criminal record

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Propaganda? What propaganda do you see here exactly? Your relentless support to the govt when the topic is about the criminals in the govt is really disgusting dude! I dont know if you just created a profile just to comment here. Wont be surprised!

Is there an Indian equivalent of the 50 Cent Party? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

Oh yes! The BJP, which is the ruling party is famous for this very same thing. A lot of trending topics in support of this party is done by paid twitter trends and they are famous for abusing journalists and the left with rape and death threats continuously!

Re: Why many Indian politicians have a criminal record

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The videos you linked were so hard to watch. > India is a land of lawlessness and that's a reality. It's a little more subtle : well connected people to whatever they want and get away with no consequences. People who dare to oppose these powerful people discover the true meaning of hell. It's true practically everywhere in the world including the US. IMO for all the shit that social networks receive (for good reason…

> well connected people to whatever > they want and get away with no > consequences > It's true practically everywhere > in the world With the occasional glaring exception (Jimmy Savile, for example) I simply don't believe that's true in most of Western Europe. The press, the judiciary, the police, and the civil service are strong institutions. Reading up on "Plebgate" will give you a feel for the truly pedestrian na…

Don't underestimate how much you don't see. Millionaires fly without even seeing border security, meanwhile every other person spends hours waiting in line. It may not be beatings in the street but there are many laws that simply don't apply when you're rich enough.

Re: Why many Indian politicians have a criminal record

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The videos you linked were so hard to watch. > India is a land of lawlessness and that's a reality. It's a little more subtle : well connected people to whatever they want and get away with no consequences. People who dare to oppose these powerful people discover the true meaning of hell. It's true practically everywhere in the world including the US. IMO for all the shit that social networks receive (for good reason…

>People who dare to oppose these powerful people discover the true meaning of hell. It's true practically everywhere in the world including the US. It can be true in the US, but it definitely is not the norm. This statement rings false. For all the problems the US has, yes including corruption in some places, it is almost entirely unique in its freedom of speech and its allowance for political opposition without fear…

> its allowance for political opposition without fear of retribution as a modus operandi.

Are we talking of the country of COINTELPRO, that killed civil rights activists, or obliterated unions and the US socialist party by force and shady tactics? it's like, you can say what you want, as long as it has zero consequences -- otherwise, prepare to meet some serious shit.

Re: Why many Indian politicians have a criminal record

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India does have a high level of criminality and corruption in politics, but it is different from the U.S. in one aspect. An Indian politician who brags about sexual assault and doesn't even deny video-taped evidence of the bragging .... would have no chance of being elected as Prime Minister. As we demonstrated in November, American voters have a much higher tolerance level when it comes to electing our president.

I beg to differ here. In India, you can be elected as a PM if you have large social media brigade. Our current PM has charges of rioting against him and he won by huge margin by using effective PR and his social media brigade.

Re: Why many Indian politicians have a criminal record

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post #57

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>People who dare to oppose these powerful people discover the true meaning of hell. It's true practically everywhere in the world including the US. It can be true in the US, but it definitely is not the norm. This statement rings false. For all the problems the US has, yes including corruption in some places, it is almost entirely unique in its freedom of speech and its allowance for political opposition without fear…

> its allowance for political opposition without fear of retribution as a modus operandi. Are we talking of the country of COINTELPRO, that killed civil rights activists, or obliterated unions and the US socialist party by force and shady tactics? it's like, you can say what you want, as long as it has zero consequences -- otherwise, prepare to meet some serious shit.

We destroyed the unions so hard that there are over 7 million government employees who are members of various unions.

Because when a government really destroys a group they let huge swaths of their own employees join that group.

Re: Why many Indian politicians have a criminal record

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The videos you linked were so hard to watch. > India is a land of lawlessness and that's a reality. It's a little more subtle : well connected people to whatever they want and get away with no consequences. People who dare to oppose these powerful people discover the true meaning of hell. It's true practically everywhere in the world including the US. IMO for all the shit that social networks receive (for good reason…

> well connected people to whatever > they want and get away with no > consequences > It's true practically everywhere > in the world With the occasional glaring exception (Jimmy Savile, for example) I simply don't believe that's true in most of Western Europe. The press, the judiciary, the police, and the civil service are strong institutions. Reading up on "Plebgate" will give you a feel for the truly pedestrian na…

Organized crime have had a _tremendous_ influence in Europe, and most countries of the world, up to the very top of governments. In wartime, or when the government is in a weak position domestically, they don't hesitate to resort to the muscle of mafias, and of course this has long term consequences: once they have helped the "state", they have a free hand to do a lot of things -- a lot.
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