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Re: What programming languages are used most on weekends?

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Post by sokoloff »

segmondy wrote: post #36
bootload wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Picking up the basics of a language is easy, but it's knowing the nuisance that separates the professional from the amateur." From learning perspective correct. I don't think developers chase new languages, I think it's more, play 'catch up to latest language' to be more employable. You would hope companies, CTOs, lead techs choose languages to solve the unique business problems. Language choice looks more, to me, l…

I can't tell, I know many developers today who are on the new shiny js thing, golang, elixir, scalar, rust train, but they never got really good in their first language be it Java, python, or php. They use linux or OSX. But they don't know awk/sed/bash, give em a very simple problem, they would write 1000 line of OOP, united test code when a few line of scripts would solve it. I know many programmers, who graduated w…

I break out in a sweat contemplating how to get an ORM to efficiently do something that would be simple in straight SQL...

Re: What programming languages are used most on weekends?

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Post by sokoloff »

Cyph0n wrote: post #50
segmondy wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell, I know many developers today who are on the new shiny js thing, golang, elixir, scalar, rust train, but they never got really good in their first language be it Java, python, or php. They use linux or OSX. But they don't know awk/sed/bash, give em a very simple problem, they would write 1000 line of OOP, united test code when a few line of scripts would solve it. I know many programmers, who graduated w…

> They use linux or OSX. But they don't know awk/sed/bash Am I in the minority of developers then? I don't know awk and sed and I'm honestly not very interested in learning them. But bash I definitely agree with. I still use a cheatsheet to get the syntax right because it's weird as hell imo.

Worth reading "Area Number Three" on this blog post from Steve Yegge: https://sites.google.com/site/steveyegge2/five-essential-pho...

Re: What programming languages are used most on weekends?

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Post by robalfonso »

Cyph0n wrote: post #50
segmondy wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell, I know many developers today who are on the new shiny js thing, golang, elixir, scalar, rust train, but they never got really good in their first language be it Java, python, or php. They use linux or OSX. But they don't know awk/sed/bash, give em a very simple problem, they would write 1000 line of OOP, united test code when a few line of scripts would solve it. I know many programmers, who graduated w…

> They use linux or OSX. But they don't know awk/sed/bash Am I in the minority of developers then? I don't know awk and sed and I'm honestly not very interested in learning them. But bash I definitely agree with. I still use a cheatsheet to get the syntax right because it's weird as hell imo.

awk and sed are fantastic for command line processing of text. You really should take a look at them. All that said, if you don't find yourself trying to do something in bash and thinking "there must be an easier way" then you're problem sets may just not need them.

Re: What programming languages are used most on weekends?

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Post by bootload »

Cyph0n wrote: post #50
segmondy wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell, I know many developers today who are on the new shiny js thing, golang, elixir, scalar, rust train, but they never got really good in their first language be it Java, python, or php. They use linux or OSX. But they don't know awk/sed/bash, give em a very simple problem, they would write 1000 line of OOP, united test code when a few line of scripts would solve it. I know many programmers, who graduated w…

> They use linux or OSX. But they don't know awk/sed/bash Am I in the minority of developers then? I don't know awk and sed and I'm honestly not very interested in learning them. But bash I definitely agree with. I still use a cheatsheet to get the syntax right because it's weird as hell imo.

"I don't know awk and sed and I'm honestly not very interested in learning them. But bash I definitely agree with."

Awk/Sed are optimised for text/data processing.[0] While Bash might work, will the script work on all systems (and version)? [1] awk & predecessor sed are good for one liner programs and suitable for problems that need fast, reliable solutions.

reference

[0] Opening, closing files; reading, breaking and counting record fields.

[1] OS use Bash or Bourne? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_(Unix_shell)#Portability

Re: What programming languages are used most on weekends?

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Post by civility »

OJFord wrote: post #44
minaandrawos wrote: post #37

I was kinda surprised that Go (golang) wasn't up in the list

I was expecting to see Rust - I thought it was a considerably 'hotter' language than reflected by its current use in the wild. Also, I find SO's coverage of it lacking. So maybe it's more about people sourcing the information elsewhere - relatively good docs, active and helpful community in IRC, and more Q&A on Reddit (albeit mostly - again, anecdotally - out of date, but still) than SO.

This chart was not what I expected:

http://www.arepeopletalkingaboutit.com/tags/ocaml,scheme,rus...

Re: What programming languages are used most on weekends?

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Post by rcdmd »

segmondy wrote: post #36
bootload wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Picking up the basics of a language is easy, but it's knowing the nuisance that separates the professional from the amateur." From learning perspective correct. I don't think developers chase new languages, I think it's more, play 'catch up to latest language' to be more employable. You would hope companies, CTOs, lead techs choose languages to solve the unique business problems. Language choice looks more, to me, l…

I can't tell, I know many developers today who are on the new shiny js thing, golang, elixir, scalar, rust train, but they never got really good in their first language be it Java, python, or php. They use linux or OSX. But they don't know awk/sed/bash, give em a very simple problem, they would write 1000 line of OOP, united test code when a few line of scripts would solve it. I know many programmers, who graduated w…

Agreed for the most part, although we should acknowledge that those "new and shiny JS things" make for some extraordinary RAD times and generally don't take too long to learn (at least to become productive). They may have serious limitations, but for side-projects developers can get to an MVP with haste.
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