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Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by chrishacken »

chimen wrote: post #32
oblio wrote: post #17

To be honest I'm quite proud how the protests went. More akin to Ghandi's protests than to rioters burning cars. It's going to be a long struggle but thankfully the groups most supportive of populism and therefore corruption are older (>50).

Yes. It's obvious we're leaving behind the old generation which loses it's grip. There's also the faint rising of a counter protest with a majority of old people and I'm certain they're being lied to or paid to go on the streets. The balance is obvious though and I'm proud of the outcome so far.

> and I'm certain they're being lied to or paid to go on the streets

You realize both sides use this argument? It's not that either side is being lied to or paid; some people simply have different viewpoints on issues, as hard as that is to believe.

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by Kalium »

baby wrote: post #26

It's interesting that you currently have one of the largest "political" peaceful demonstrations in the world right now in Korea and in Romania and not many people are talking about it. (I'm happy to see this bit of news on HN.)

I've seen news about both. That said, American domestic media is understandably more focused on Washington at the moment.

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

Sylphine wrote: post #3
PunchTornado wrote: post #2

It is always a bit awkward to stop a protest once you achieved your primary goal. You are now a lot of people in the streets, with a lot of power, the government backs off. Should you ask for more or stick to the original requests that are now satisfied?

Our president Claus Iohannis has started a war with the winning party PSD. He encouraged people to protest against PSD and now supporters of PSD are protesting against Iohannis. I'm ashamed by my country but hey it could be worse.

> Claus Iohannis

The most ridiculous adaptation I've seen so far.

The guy's name is German and it was originally spelled "Klaus Johannis". During the presidential election, he changed his last name's spelling to "Iohannis" to make it seem more Romanian, even though the German minority in Romania has always been held in high regard (yes, positive ethnic stereotypes do exist).

I guess the next step would be "Claudiu Ionescu" :-)

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by [deleted] »

chrishacken wrote: post #51
chimen wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. It's obvious we're leaving behind the old generation which loses it's grip. There's also the faint rising of a counter protest with a majority of old people and I'm certain they're being lied to or paid to go on the streets. The balance is obvious though and I'm proud of the outcome so far.

> and I'm certain they're being lied to or paid to go on the streets You realize both sides use this argument? It's not that either side is being lied to or paid; some people simply have different viewpoints on issues, as hard as that is to believe.

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Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by sysdyne »

zuzuleinen wrote: post #40
delegate wrote: post #29

We're seeing another "social media revolution" - fuelled by Facebook (et al) on one side and old-school TV stations controlled by local oligarchs on the other. Young, high tech, well-dressed, global 'hipsters' who live online versus older people, mostly rural, former communists, peasants or factory workers, who have no hope of adapting to the new incomprehensible tech world around them. People from the first group wo…

"Young, high tech, well-dressed, global 'hipsters' who live online versus older people, mostly rural, former communists, peasants or factory workers, who have no hope of adapting to the new incomprehensible tech world around them." No, it's young people against corruption. Nobody is protesting against old people benefits.

While I I'm young you are part of what I like to call the tldr generation. Read the ordinance

http://www.dreptonline.ro/legislatie/oug_13_2017_modificare_...

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by sysdyne »

chimen wrote: post #38
Sylphine wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our president Claus Iohannis has started a war with the winning party PSD. He encouraged people to protest against PSD and now supporters of PSD are protesting against Iohannis. I'm ashamed by my country but hey it could be worse.

Funny that you're doing politics on the internet but fail to write your president's name correctly. The president has nothing to do with the issue discussed by the way.

The so called president deserves only a impeachment and while you are at judging other people read the ordinance.

http://www.dreptonline.ro/legislatie/oug_13_2017_modificare_...

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by Florin_Andrei »

oblio wrote: post #17

To be honest I'm quite proud how the protests went. More akin to Ghandi's protests than to rioters burning cars. It's going to be a long struggle but thankfully the groups most supportive of populism and therefore corruption are older (>50).

> It's going to be a long struggle but thankfully the groups most supportive of populism and therefore corruption are older (>50).

On the flip side, this might be just the natural shift in people's political views as they get older. I mean, the same argument is made by liberals in the US, forgetting that people simply become more conservative as they are aging.

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by sysdyne »

adrian_b wrote: post #23
Sylphine wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think its awkward in both positions but the protesters have objectives. The "Victoria" protesters want to see the government formed in January to resign and the "Cotrocenii" protesters want for President Claus Iohannis to resign.

Always when such protests happen in Romania, all the TV shows and the other mass-media are invaded by various people, who benefit from the money stolen by the government, and who tell a huge number of lies designed to confuse the ignorant or weak-minded. Nevertheless, I was surprised to find such a person trying to influence an Internet forum in the USA, far from home. The lies said above by "Sylphine" are some of th…

KEK You just send my sides in orbit!! Read the OUG 13/2017

http://www.dreptonline.ro/legislatie/oug_13_2017_modificare_...

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by garrettgrimsley »

CrystalLangUser wrote: post #20
cmarinas wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, right... The government passes an emergency ordinance quietly during the night, aimed at saving the party's leader, and you blame the president. IOW, people shouldn't think for themselves because there are leaders elected to do just that. What I'm really ashamed of is that there are still many Romanian citizens who think that leaders are allowed to steal as long as they give a little bit in return (for those wh…

My parents fled Romania. What is the significance of that phrase?

During Ceaușescu's final speech he offered to raise the salary of workers by 200 lei per month to placate the rebelling crowd.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceau%C8%99escu%27s_final_speec...

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by sysdyne »

oblio wrote: post #19
Sylphine wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to forget that we live in a representative democracy. When the government was formed (PSD + ALDE) in January it won by a majority and there are no reasonable facts on why the government should resign. I want to remind you that when the "Colective" horror happened the government resigned (PSD) but when a similar incident happened in the USA the president or any government official didn't resign. If you think…

If one of the first laws you try to pass is to legalize bribes lower than $50k to save your party leader and his cronies, it means that you deceived your voters.

"legalize bribes lower than $50k" If you had bothered reading OUG13/2017 you would have found out that a case regarding a lower than 50k becomes a civil case and the damaged is recovered by the state. Honestly read the ordinance and stop making propaganda for PNL/USR or whatever party you want.
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