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Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by [deleted] »

fa17 wrote: post #6
PunchTornado wrote: post #2

It is always a bit awkward to stop a protest once you achieved your primary goal. You are now a lot of people in the streets, with a lot of power, the government backs off. Should you ask for more or stick to the original requests that are now satisfied?

Right, there was a protest in Chennai not a month ago to lift ban on Jallikattu(a local sport) and the local Govt passes a law in a week to allow this. but the protesters refused to leave the place(beach) after all the demands were met and eventually it got ugly, a police station was set on fire and the Govt had to use force.

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Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by chimen »

oblio wrote: post #17

To be honest I'm quite proud how the protests went. More akin to Ghandi's protests than to rioters burning cars. It's going to be a long struggle but thankfully the groups most supportive of populism and therefore corruption are older (>50).

Yes. It's obvious we're leaving behind the old generation which loses it's grip. There's also the faint rising of a counter protest with a majority of old people and I'm certain they're being lied to or paid to go on the streets. The balance is obvious though and I'm proud of the outcome so far.

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by baby »

mtgx wrote: post #27
baby wrote: post #26

It's interesting that you currently have one of the largest "political" peaceful demonstrations in the world right now in Korea and in Romania and not many people are talking about it. (I'm happy to see this bit of news on HN.)

Most of the media is only interested in covering "violent protests" so they can help their buddies in power by discrediting the protesters. Those who watched the U.S. elections closely in 2015 and 2016 already know the media had zero interest in covering real issues, and they would much rather do a one-day marathon about Trump calling someone a pussy. And now the same media blames the Russians or whoever that Trump i…

> Most of the media is only interested in covering "violent protests"

This is sadly true. I saw one popular video being shared on facebook, targeting a more American audience, and they would only show violent videos from the protests (which have been overwhelmingly peaceful).

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by chimen »

Sylphine wrote: post #18
sonictruth wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a well known fact that Cotroceni protesters are mostly poor and retired old people and they went there because they received some incentives. And btw it is spelled Cotroceni not Cotrocenii and Klaus not Claus.

"Cotroceni not Cotrocenii and Klaus not Claus" I'd like to remind you that I'm not a bundle of CPU and memory working perfectly 24/7 and the same thing is true for you. Moving on to important things. "It's a well known fact that Cotroceni protesters are mostly poor and retired old people and they went there because they received some incentives" You seem to forget that the coalition PSD + ALDE won by a majority and t…

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Yes they are many. They voted and the winners tried to go far beyond the original plan for which they got voted in the first place - securing their own safety first by trying to lower the bars on the law so they can sneak under the radar.

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by programLyrique »

baby wrote: post #26

It's interesting that you currently have one of the largest "political" peaceful demonstrations in the world right now in Korea and in Romania and not many people are talking about it. (I'm happy to see this bit of news on HN.)

It depends on where you are.

In Europe (well, at least in France), news outlets have spoken about it. Romania is part of the EU, nearer, and the EU warned Romania about backtracking on efforts against corruption so it is quite logical that we speak more about it than in the US (assuming that you're in the US).

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by fennecfoxen »

mtgx wrote: post #27
baby wrote: post #26

It's interesting that you currently have one of the largest "political" peaceful demonstrations in the world right now in Korea and in Romania and not many people are talking about it. (I'm happy to see this bit of news on HN.)

Most of the media is only interested in covering "violent protests" so they can help their buddies in power by discrediting the protesters. Those who watched the U.S. elections closely in 2015 and 2016 already know the media had zero interest in covering real issues, and they would much rather do a one-day marathon about Trump calling someone a pussy. And now the same media blames the Russians or whoever that Trump i…

If you think, as you seem to imply, that most of the media wants to help Donald Trump by discrediting his protestors, then I am shocked, because that would mean that most of the media wants to help Trump.

However, I have no idea what rational argument could persuade you otherwise, as there is surely AMPLE evidence out there of animosity between the two and a loathing which both sides have freely admitted to.

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by samsonradu »

I had a very positive feeling about the people's atitude and what they achieved by protesting, considering that the government did a terrible thing from all points of view. There was probably no other way to roll it back but for how things went. However I'm concerned though that the majority of people misuse their voting power and make bad choices. It happened that the oposition wanted to stop this and all the media was encouraging people to go out and protest. Think what happens when both parties/coalitions agree on a bad law/resolution and it all goes under the table.

Point is this is not the way to go on the long term. We were lucky this time but it's gonna fail soon. We need to educate people better in hope that they will cast their vote properly.

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by chimen »

Sylphine wrote: post #3
PunchTornado wrote: post #2

It is always a bit awkward to stop a protest once you achieved your primary goal. You are now a lot of people in the streets, with a lot of power, the government backs off. Should you ask for more or stick to the original requests that are now satisfied?

Our president Claus Iohannis has started a war with the winning party PSD. He encouraged people to protest against PSD and now supporters of PSD are protesting against Iohannis. I'm ashamed by my country but hey it could be worse.

Funny that you're doing politics on the internet but fail to write your president's name correctly. The president has nothing to do with the issue discussed by the way.

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by jpkeisala »

mtgx wrote: post #27
baby wrote: post #26

It's interesting that you currently have one of the largest "political" peaceful demonstrations in the world right now in Korea and in Romania and not many people are talking about it. (I'm happy to see this bit of news on HN.)

Most of the media is only interested in covering "violent protests" so they can help their buddies in power by discrediting the protesters. Those who watched the U.S. elections closely in 2015 and 2016 already know the media had zero interest in covering real issues, and they would much rather do a one-day marathon about Trump calling someone a pussy. And now the same media blames the Russians or whoever that Trump i…

I don't think its that much of "help their buddies in power by discrediting the protesters." as it is simply more entertainment. I remember someone asking from Cops tv-show maker why there is always African-American suspect and not a crooked banker. Where the guy simply answers if you can get crooked banker to take his shirt of and run down to street cops behind and we will film it.

Re: Romania is developing its own culture of protests

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Post by zuzuleinen »

delegate wrote: post #29

We're seeing another "social media revolution" - fuelled by Facebook (et al) on one side and old-school TV stations controlled by local oligarchs on the other. Young, high tech, well-dressed, global 'hipsters' who live online versus older people, mostly rural, former communists, peasants or factory workers, who have no hope of adapting to the new incomprehensible tech world around them. People from the first group wo…

"Young, high tech, well-dressed, global 'hipsters' who live online versus older people, mostly rural, former communists, peasants or factory workers, who have no hope of adapting to the new incomprehensible tech world around them."

No, it's young people against corruption. Nobody is protesting against old people benefits.

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