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I don't get it, could you explain it please?
The Russian guy never gave his dog anything. And yet, his methods were so tough and efficient that he taught the dog to speak and beg in human language. Could also contain a nod to the patience and unending hope of the Russians under their "stingy" government but that's likely too deep and contradicting their infinite cynicism and complete lack of faith ;)
CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf]
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Re: CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf]
#42These jokes aren't bad. What is the story? Are these genuine Russian jokes, or jokes inserted there by the CIA?
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a joke on scarcity of food etc. No (availability of) shit to eat on most days > he doesn't have to eat shit. On other days shit is available but no shovels are available > he doesn't have to eat shit because there's no shovel to measure it/eat it with. He knew this would happen because in Russia the food stores were more often than not empty and tools would be often "misplaced"/stolen.
He's asking about the training dog joke, not the American hell vs Russian hell joke.
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#45I like this one: An American tells a Russian that the United States is so free he can stand in front of the White House and yell, "To hell with Ronald Regan." The Russian replies, "That's nothing. I can stand in front of the Kremlin and yell, 'To hell with Ronald Regan,' too."
I like how Ronald Reagan delivers this joke: https://youtu.be/mN3z3eSVG7A?t=131
Reagan surely knew to carry himself in a presidential manner.
Re: CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf]
#46These jokes aren't bad. What is the story? Are these genuine Russian jokes, or jokes inserted there by the CIA?
Inserting jokes is not that easy. A joke needs to be told in person, create laughs and get retold, go viral. Similarly there's no reliable formula for viral videos etc. And, the Russians were pissed enough and cynical enough and often drunk enough to get pleasure from creating their own. Laughing at the cruel unjust absurdity of their Situation was some of the last bit of power they had to form their narrative.
Re: CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf]
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Inserting jokes is not that easy. A joke needs to be told in person, create laughs and get retold, go viral. Similarly there's no reliable formula for viral videos etc. And, the Russians were pissed enough and cynical enough and often drunk enough to get pleasure from creating their own. Laughing at the cruel unjust absurdity of their Situation was some of the last bit of power they had to form their narrative.
People in all countries make jokes about the problems of their society or lives, or their government or bureaucracy or businesses; you don't have to live in "cruel unjust" absurdity or be "drunk enough" to do so, or be afflicted by any other stereotype or trope.
Re: CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf]
#48Compare with the good selection from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_jokes
Re: CIA Declassified Coldwar Russian Jokes [pdf]
#49Makes me wonder, what jokes is the CIA not declassifying? Yes, this is a call for more Russian jokes.
At noon, Brezhnev stands on a balcony at the Kremlin and looks up. "Hello, Comrade Sun! It's a fine day!" The sun replies, "Hello, Comrade Brezhnev! Yes, it's a fine day!"
Just before sunset, Brezhnev looks out and says, "Good evening, Comrade Sun!" The sun replies, "Screw you! I'm in the West now!"
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I don't get it, could you explain it please?
The Russian guy never gave his dog anything. And yet, his methods were so tough and efficient that he taught the dog to speak and beg in human language. Could also contain a nod to the patience and unending hope of the Russians under their "stingy" government but that's likely too deep and contradicting their infinite cynicism and complete lack of faith ;)
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>infinite cynicism and complete lack of faith
yes, the joke is basically stating that as these methods can make a dog speak then any lesser task like forcing any human to do anything what the government wants can be easily accomplished by these methods, ie. resistance is futile.