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“We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”
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Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
> seems like a waste of digital resources Yes, that's exactly the same what Sumerians did say back a few 1000 years ago. Why keep all these clay tables about ordering wine? Who is gonna be interested in that kind of stuff in 10 years? Don't you think that such an archive would offer a nice glimpse into our current culture a few hundred years in the future?
I've posted about this in other places on this thread, but after feeling the same way as you, I looked at some old movies, and found that most posts are fairly recent. It turns out that IMDB has been expiring posts all along. Your argument is sound though. Comments on websites, even if filled with trolls and fakes ought to be treated with respect and saved for posterity, since they give an important insight into the…
Oh, I don't know. I was a daily user of Usenet for years, but the vast majority of the time I don't miss it. (Yes, I know Google still has some unevenly preserved and mostly difficult to access portion of the content.)
Here's the point: if you put some of the great content that was created there 25 or 30 years ago in front of the current generation, what is the general reaction? A yawn, that's what.
It might be fascinating in a few thousand years, but I won't be around then, and the planet might not be either, so why should I care?
Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”
#163This is such a terrible idea. By far the main reason I go to IMDb is to see and participate in the discussions on the movie I just watched.
Really?
By far the main reason I go to IMDb is to look up actors and movies. And when I did accidentally see a comment, it was usually pretty low-quality.
Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act protects services from being responsible for what users post: "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider" https://www.eff.org/issues/cda230
They may not be responsible, but if they're asked to take it down via DMCA request or a court order, they have to either comply or go to court. Obviously if it's other user's content, it's just easier to comply. Once these start coming in more frequently and adding up, the maintenance costs of that user contributed content add up as well.
Although it's widely used for general censorship, the DCMA is supposed to only cover copyright issues. So the parent comment's concern about "anti-ageism" posts would not be a DCMA issue.
Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”
#165Thumbs down to whoever decided to close the boards. I'll miss being able to argue about why a movie is rubbish with someone who thinks it's fantastic, or vice-versa. There's some great discussions on some of the movie boards where people talk about the stories and motivations of characters etc. Sure it gets heated sometimes, but that's life. You just navigate around that stuff and find things worth responding to. Sen…
The sad part is it's due to a very small amount of trolls that did a lot of damage. I can't help but be disgusted that these guys are now laughing about IMDB shutting the whole thing down because of their actions.
Well, it's time to come up with a better solution than 'don't feed the trolls.' I have been saying for years that trolling (the aggressive kind, not the witty mutual banter kind) is a serious problem and the response is almost always 'oh just don't give them attention, that's what they feed on blah blah.'
this ignores the fact that trolls and bullies systematically pick on people who are vulnerable and target their specific vulnerabilities. Telling people to just ignore it is equivalent to telling them that their injuries don't matter and you're not interested enough to help, and can't think of a single suggestion to do anything the problem they're experiencing. That is an implicit endorsement of the idea that aggressively trolling other people is basically acceptable.
Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”
#166Translation: "We thought we would get a community of fans for free. We didn't realize that maintaining a community requires active engagement, setting rules for behavior and enforcing them. We really didn't think anyone would bother being a troll. This is all too expensive to do properly."
I don't think you can say that IMDB's management is unaware of how to manage community engagement. It is an offshoot of a usenet community from the early 1990s and the founder is still actively involved in the site. IMDB is one of the oldest and most successful user-contributed media sites on the web.
Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
The sad part is it's due to a very small amount of trolls that did a lot of damage. I can't help but be disgusted that these guys are now laughing about IMDB shutting the whole thing down because of their actions.
IMDB says the decision was based on traffic and data. They don't mention trolls.
Yeah but that's corporate bullshit to avoid litigation by admitting there's a problem. As a company IMDB is not especially interested in movies or in the quality of the service they provide to users, only in maximizing the revenue stream from them. They have a very aggressive approach to gathering data; if any of your personal information shows up in their database it's virtually impossible to get it removed, for instance.
Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”
#168This is pretty bad move and here's why: IMDb relies on users using the site, editing entries, facts, quotes and correcting things. These are the community, and they are movie fans, hardcore fans, the reason why IMDb continues. The "db" in IMDb has been created, by hand, by volunteers - the users who use the message board. IMDb has totally overlooked the value of the Message Boards - they are for the community. Remove…
IMDb relies on users using the site, editing entries, facts, quotes and correcting things.
Are you sure about this? My impression is that they rely on IMDBPro subscriptions.
Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”
#169It's good for companies to stick to what they're good at. If social isn't a core part of your offerings, don't half ass it and let the poo flinging monkeys take over.
Re: “We have decided to disable IMDb's message boards”
#170This is pretty bad move and here's why: IMDb relies on users using the site, editing entries, facts, quotes and correcting things. These are the community, and they are movie fans, hardcore fans, the reason why IMDb continues. The "db" in IMDb has been created, by hand, by volunteers - the users who use the message board. IMDb has totally overlooked the value of the Message Boards - they are for the community. Remove…
All true. They've grown fat off user-created content, and are about to discover that their user base isn't that sticky and their database is easy to clone. AOL was once the biggest thing on the internet, and look at them now.
As a general matter, if you've ever wanted to disrupt an existing firm but have been unsure about whether it's practical to unseat an incumbent, times of economic and political uncertainty are absolutely the best environment to go about it. I don't think it's a coincidence that the first tech boom peaked at a time of (relatively minor) political crisis.