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Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by leppr »

ikeyany wrote: post #200
leppr wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I've come to a hypothesis that technology's purpose is to gently erode the concept of "self" Centralized corporate-style internet services may achieve that, but many other kind of technologies strive for and achieve the exact contrary. I'm thinking of all the free (as in freedom) social networks that allow people to express their true self, to say what they can't say in their outside social life. Two aspects necessa…

Your true self can't be expressed unless you have a separate online identity?

Are you okay with the whole world, every person you meet on the street, your boss, your parents, your ex, the guy who serves you coffee, that thug you bumped into in the subway, the guys who work at your company's competitors, the guys who live in that country at war with yours, knowing every detail of your personality and your life?

Or do you maybe think putting up your information on that open and permanent graveyard that is the web could put you at risk, someday?

If not, then I envy you, but you're not the norm, nor can you guarantee that your environment always be this supportive. What's guaranteed though, is that the databases will still be there.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by theghostofjr »

jayajay wrote: post #205
bigtunacan wrote: post #164

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Based on what I've seen you should assume most nation states have this ability. Take the NSA's back door into Cisco routers as an example. The NSA made use of this exploit for years before it was exposed. In all likelihood they are still making use of it as there are likely unpatched routers still in the wild. Now sidestep to phones. Nation states can tap into your calls and to your location through the GPS info tied…

To slightly bastardize the term "burner", people might think they don't have any burners, but everyone's got burners. I started to notice that one of my professors, around every ~25 sentences, he would capitalize the first two letters of the sentence. I mean it's a dead giveaway, because most people do this a lot less frequently. But these figurative "burners" are everywhere. Little, tiny, seemingly untraceable ticks…

'burner' in the parent comment refers to a disposable pre-paid phone without contract.

You're describing a kind of 'tell' I think. Still an interesting point you make.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by sbierwagen »

anigbrowl wrote: post #163
Animats wrote: post #91

Once things get rolling, any visa overstayer who shows up in a Facebook photo should expect a visit from ICE.[1][2] [1] http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/14/illegal-immi... [2] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-vows-crackdown-on-...

Gonna be tricky when people peaceably assemble to block all the entrances and exists of every building ICE operates out of.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19/republican-lawmakers-in-...

  Republicans in Washington state have proposed a plan to 
  reclassify as a felony civil disobedience protests that 
  are deemed “economic terrorism.”
Similar laws are being proposed in multiple states. You can protest, but don't imagine you're immune from prosecution by a sufficiently annoyed DA.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by HugoDaniel »

Kiro wrote: post #218
HugoDaniel wrote: post #213

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Precisely

The difference is that I get something out of using Facebook, while giving it to you gives me nothing.

I really didn't want to be that guy, But you should really try to think about what you write before you post.

"...even if the next Hitler would get all my Facebook data I still don't care personally."

Sorry, i'm downvoting your post as you clearly seem to be trolling.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by [deleted] »

leppr wrote: post #170
kordless wrote: post #49

I deleted my Facebook account in 2010 after appearing in the Times regarding technology addiction. It was my most time consuming social media application at the time. For the article, they had me install an application tracker to see how much time I spent in focus on a particular app. I was alarmed at how often I checked Facebook chat. Today, after much investigation, I've come to a hypothesis that technology's purpo…

>I've come to a hypothesis that technology's purpose is to gently erode the concept of "self" Centralized corporate-style internet services may achieve that, but many other kind of technologies strive for and achieve the exact contrary. I'm thinking of all the free (as in freedom) social networks that allow people to express their true self, to say what they can't say in their outside social life. Two aspects necessa…

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Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by the_watcher »

kordless wrote: post #49

I deleted my Facebook account in 2010 after appearing in the Times regarding technology addiction. It was my most time consuming social media application at the time. For the article, they had me install an application tracker to see how much time I spent in focus on a particular app. I was alarmed at how often I checked Facebook chat. Today, after much investigation, I've come to a hypothesis that technology's purpo…

> I was alarmed at how often I checked Facebook chat.

A bit unrelated to your broader point, but I recently dropped my phone and shattered the camera lens, and have been astonished at how much less I'm using social media. It's even more surprising because I don't actually post that much and don't take a ton of photos relative to others.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by Kiro »

HugoDaniel wrote: post #234
Kiro wrote: post #218

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The difference is that I get something out of using Facebook, while giving it to you gives me nothing.

I really didn't want to be that guy, But you should really try to think about what you write before you post. "...even if the next Hitler would get all my Facebook data I still don't care personally." Sorry, i'm downvoting your post as you clearly seem to be trolling.

I don't see how that translates to "I want to give everyone my credit card number". Especially since that's not part of my Facebook data.

You seem to think it's black or white: either you want everyone to have your data or you die before risking to give it to anyone.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by endominus »

reledi wrote: post #216
gumby wrote: post #194

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You know you have an account anyway, right? FB makes and manages profiles of people who don't have accounts, even of people who have never had accounts. They use this for their ad network, among other things. LinkedIn does this as well. I don't know about others.

Is there any evidence to back this up?

Anecdotally, it's happened to my father and brother. There are bot-made accounts on Facebook with their biographical information and pictures, taken from Wikipedia. Apparently it's standard practice for "notable" persons who don't create their own pages.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by anigbrowl »

sbierwagen wrote: post #233
anigbrowl wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gonna be tricky when people peaceably assemble to block all the entrances and exists of every building ICE operates out of.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19/republican-lawmakers-in-... Republicans in Washington state have proposed a plan to reclassify as a felony civil disobedience protests that are deemed “economic terrorism.” Similar laws are being proposed in multiple states. You can protest, but don't imagine you're immune from prosecution by a sufficiently annoyed DA.

Oh I'm well aware of that. And I predict the more heavy-handed the attempts to restrict protest become, the more people will come out to oppose them.
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