Man I would kill for an ultra-simple, ultra-lightweight, robust music player for macOS that was just like Winamp 2.81, the last good version. No, not foobar.
Nullsoft: The death of the last maverick tech company (2004)
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Re: Nullsoft: The death of the last maverick tech company (2004)
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember reading a few posts on the Winamp forums around a year ago that they were revitalizing development on Winamp, not sure if that went anywhere though.
I have a feeling it isn't. I used to have winamp on my android phone and when I got a new phone a few months ago I discovered that they had removed winamp from the store. Which is unfortunate because winamp was surprisingly great on android too.
I would be surprised if it has. For most people playing compressed music is a solved problem.
Re: Nullsoft: The death of the last maverick tech company (2004)
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember reading a few posts on the Winamp forums around a year ago that they were revitalizing development on Winamp, not sure if that went anywhere though.
I have a feeling it isn't. I used to have winamp on my android phone and when I got a new phone a few months ago I discovered that they had removed winamp from the store. Which is unfortunate because winamp was surprisingly great on android too.
Their site[0] says that they're revitalizing it, and the last dev tweet I could find was from October 2016 [1]. So I'd bet it's going along at a reasonable pace.
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#15Man I would kill for an ultra-simple, ultra-lightweight, robust music player for macOS that was just like Winamp 2.81, the last good version. No, not foobar.
"Ultra-lightweight" can mean two very different (and nearly opposite) things: some people want a player that has no external dependencies (and thus must do everything itself, like VLC); while others want a player with minimal binary size (which thus will then rely on the OS's AV frameworks as much as possible for media support.)
Personally, I prefer the second definition, but it's the harder of the two to satisfy. I don't really understand why the approach Perian undertook was abandoned when Perian itself was. It'd be very nice to just have macOS "natively" support every media format+codec under the sun, and then just play media files in Quicktime or iTunes or any other player GUI you prefer.
Re: Nullsoft: The death of the last maverick tech company (2004)
#16Man I would kill for an ultra-simple, ultra-lightweight, robust music player for macOS that was just like Winamp 2.81, the last good version. No, not foobar.
is the music player "Vox" still around? if so, try it out :)
Re: Nullsoft: The death of the last maverick tech company (2004)
#17For what it's worth, Justin Frankel continues to produce great software. He founded Cockos Incorporated, which produces REAPER; I think it's pretty widely accepted in the audio recording community that REAPER is the best value in the multitrack recording DAW market, and among the best overall tools for the purpose.
He's obviously wealthy enough to never need to work again. It's clear Frankel just loves music, and wants to make meaningful contributions in the field. So, I think that's pretty cool. (I've also been a very happy REAPER user/customer for many years.)
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#18Small guide on How to use WASTE -> http://www.cs.montana.edu/~huff/waste/howto/Waste.html
I was just thinking about WASTE recently in the last 2 weeks since Trump took office.
WASTE was written in Java and was sort of tricky to setup / understand. At one point about 10 years ago, I had a small 8 person "dark net" running with WASTE, shit was so 1337 for its time.
Bit torrent was just making waves around this time and made downloading WAY faster, but was more risky then sharing directly over WASTE.
Re: Nullsoft: The death of the last maverick tech company (2004)
#19Man I would kill for an ultra-simple, ultra-lightweight, robust music player for macOS that was just like Winamp 2.81, the last good version. No, not foobar.
is the music player "Vox" still around? if so, try it out :)
Tried VOX, but it attempts to do way too much and kept crashing on my machine. The UI is nice enough, but all I want is a media player which lets me add a bunch of folders to watch, which monitors those folders for any files that are added to them and updates the global playlist, lets me queue tracks as easily as Winamp did (just hit 'j', it queues the file and shows the queue position next to the file name), and doesn't try and jam streaming, cloud storage, internet radio, and a billion other useless things down my throat.
Not to mention stuff like VOX Agent, and their system preferences panel - why do I want or need either of those things taking up space and resources on my machine? Why is my MP3 player connecting to the internet at all?
Why do so many developers insist on bloating up their software with so much crud that it becomes necessary to use much older versions? Hell, Nullsoft itself was guilty of that exact issue once AOL squeezed out the massive turd that was Winamp 5 - the last sane version was 2.81.
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#20NSIS (created also by Nullsoft) was particularly awesome, made it a breeze to build a Windows installer. There was also a photo gallery script Justin created which I thought was ahead of its time back then.