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Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by ohstopitu »

throw9982 wrote: post #133
bastawhiz wrote: post #36

What is the proposed recourse? Ban Facebook from analyzing data that users give it? I use Facebook's automatic tagging because I find it useful. Should it be illegal for me to use this feature because someone might unintentionally be identified in a photo that I took? Is the argument that Facebook--or any other company--should never be allowed to develop software that could process data that could identify folks, eve…

Facebook can of course do whatever it wants, and users as well. But bystanders should be able preserve their privacy if they so wish. The only way to do this is active obfuscation. Here's hoping 2017 is the year it gets scaled up, because it would sure be profitable, with the right implementation.

A friend of mine had something similar[0] on his car (it was a Lamborghini) to avoid his car being identified in images online. I'm sure it's not hard to have hoodies and tee shirts with this integrated. It's not visible to the human eye so unless you hold up a camera, it'll not be a problem. That said, this might be an issue if you visit a bank or airport or something along those lines. [0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2oYReMaS4A

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by dwaltrip »

Kiro wrote: post #132
elastic_church wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and I'm guessing you consider that a rebuttal?

What do you mean?

The point is to not only consider how such dynamics would affect you personally.

There are 7.4 billion humans on this Earth, and not all of them have the opportunities you do.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by psyc »

paulbaumgart wrote: post #147
psyc wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wrote an essay in 2003, saying that all of this was 100% inevitable. No matter how many people thought it was creepy, didn't want it, raised privacy concerns, it was imminent all the same. Digital sense organs would continue to multiply all over the planet, and the digital nervous system would become ever more sophisticated and scary-smart all the time. I argued that the one thing we had some limited hope of shapin…

Is there a link to your essay? I would be interested to read it.

My best guess is it's on a zip drive, in a box, in a storage unit. The idea that the future would feature drastically reduced privacy was taken as a given. The thesis was basically that humans tend to be both judgmental and hypocritical, so in a world of total information, we could either keep persecuting and jailing each other over non-violent cultural things, or we could become more tolerant.

I must say that the current climate of everybody tearing each other apart on social media is so far not encouraging.

The rest of it was about the more concrete benefits, like improved traffic, logistics, labor and resource allocation.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by gumby »

kordless wrote: post #49

I deleted my Facebook account in 2010 after appearing in the Times regarding technology addiction. It was my most time consuming social media application at the time. For the article, they had me install an application tracker to see how much time I spent in focus on a particular app. I was alarmed at how often I checked Facebook chat. Today, after much investigation, I've come to a hypothesis that technology's purpo…

You know you have an account anyway, right? FB makes and manages profiles of people who don't have accounts, even of people who have never had accounts. They use this for their ad network, among other things.

LinkedIn does this as well. I don't know about others.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by rxlim »

pravda wrote: post #179
l33tbro wrote: post #158

I can't get into my Facebook account right now because it's prompting me with a request to provide government-issued ID (eg, drivers license, passport) to verify me. Suffice it to say, I am no longer on Facebook.

How did that happen? I have a 'fake' Facebook account (the only kind I'd ever have!) and I wonder what it would take for Facebook to ask for 'verification'.

I have found these ways for Facebook to require verification:

1. Created a fake account in one country and used it a few times, then many many months later I tried to login from another country and Facebook promptly required government-issued ID.

2. Created another fake account and changed the E-mail address after a few days and Facebook promptly required government-issued ID.

It makes me really happy that so many are deleting their Facebook account, or at least trying to use it less.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by HugoDaniel »

Kiro wrote: post #136
HugoDaniel wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you surely have no problem in giving me all your data now. Bank accounts access included, pics of your mom and all conversations you ever had online say for the last 5 years. I'll take care of it, also you can trust me, i'm a cool guy and no intentions of becoming a leader or govern any country ;)

We're talking about Facebook, not privacy in general. I don't want random people to get my Facebook data, but I won't take any extreme measures to prevent that small risk. Also, I don't understand comments like yours. It seems like a fallacy. Just because you "have nothing to hide" doesn't mean you want everyone to get your whole file just for the sake of it.

I can guarantee to you that the data will only be used by me (that's more than facebook does).

Also, I don't understand comments like yours. It seems like a fallacy. Just because you "have nothing to hide" doesn't mean anyone should get your whole life just for the sake of it.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by [deleted] »

BigChiefSmokem wrote: post #16
saycheese wrote: post #10

Would it be possible to provide a link to your public FB profile? EDIT: Nevermind, found it: https://m.facebook.com/BigChiefSmoke EDIT-2: https://pipl.com/search/?q=BigChiefSmokem EDIT-N: You start asking why I would post everything I am able to find on you (and anyone you know) and ask me to stop; or at least that is what the average person would do.

Facebook profile you posted doesn't match any of the other profiles you posted. Try again, young (old?) hacker :)

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Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by myrandomcomment »

How many people here have a Facebook account? I never have. I tried and liked G+ because it was more focused, but that died. My wife has a FB account and it is funny I hear updates about my friends that live out of state from her!

I have a number of friends that work there. They keep trying to get me to join. The running joke is that I ask "does it require me to use Facebook?" Them: "Yes" Me: "Sorry that's a deal breaker." :)

FB is doing some really cool stuff in the networking space with OCP.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by Sami_Lehtinen »

If they're unsure about the identity being provided, they'll just suspend your account until you provide copy of legal official government issued identification. That's a way to make sure that identities aren't getting mis-presented and users can't utilize pseudonyms.

Note: A generic comment about these spy (social) networks.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by ikeyany »

leppr wrote: post #170
kordless wrote: post #49

I deleted my Facebook account in 2010 after appearing in the Times regarding technology addiction. It was my most time consuming social media application at the time. For the article, they had me install an application tracker to see how much time I spent in focus on a particular app. I was alarmed at how often I checked Facebook chat. Today, after much investigation, I've come to a hypothesis that technology's purpo…

>I've come to a hypothesis that technology's purpose is to gently erode the concept of "self" Centralized corporate-style internet services may achieve that, but many other kind of technologies strive for and achieve the exact contrary. I'm thinking of all the free (as in freedom) social networks that allow people to express their true self, to say what they can't say in their outside social life. Two aspects necessa…

Your true self can't be expressed unless you have a separate online identity?
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