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Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Google is not any better either. I see a website about loan rates and it's blasting me with bank loans. Everything I do on the Internet is being tracked. A profile of me is developed and I get precision targeted. It's like they have an AI that will do anything to make you click an ad.

Nothing you do is safe on the Internet. I sometimes get a feeling that may be Chrome itself is tracking every website you visit and what you click.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Is there a newer interview with Zuckerberg where he expresses his views at length? Given how big Facebook is now as a company, it's possible that that "policy" was supplanted by a later more reasonable policy. What is their current view, have they explained it in any detail?

People don't change. Facebook sprang from a bad seed. In a just world filled with righteous people, that chat log would have doomed Facebook to oblivion long ago.

>People don't change

This is laughably, shockingly, categorically wrong. People can and do change, all the time. Your opinions, values, etc didn't change from when you were in college?

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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post #67

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I had a similar moment (and ironically I'm a musician too). I went to a bar, where a band was playing on stage... After a while I realized I know the drummer. I played with him before, in another band, years ago. We had a beer, chatted a bit and went home. Now, we hadn't posted any pictures, nor statuses, we have no mutual friends on facebook, no connection at all... Heck, Facebook DIDN'T EVEN EXIST when I last saw h…

I used to play a phone game and utilized mock locations for area specific content. Later, Facebook would suggest friends from the specific location I had spoofed, despite having never once set foot there or having ever known anyone from the area.

Myself and someone I just met were suggested as friends to each other after we met. Neither looked up the other. Neither created any contacts in our phone. Only possibility is our FB app knew we were both in the same place at the same time for a few hours.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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post #179

I can't get into my Facebook account right now because it's prompting me with a request to provide government-issued ID (eg, drivers license, passport) to verify me. Suffice it to say, I am no longer on Facebook.

How did that happen? I have a 'fake' Facebook account (the only kind I'd ever have!) and I wonder what it would take for Facebook to ask for 'verification'.

The handle I used was a reverse of my real name (surname is a Christian name), and I tried to log-in one day and was prompted with this request.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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post #131

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He's saying that if you live in a dictatorship, your Facebook data may literally lead to your death.

Yes, and the day I end up in a dictatorship I may just as well kill myself anyway. What I'm saying is that the small risk of whatever bad things happening due to Facebook is still not worth my energy. I can fight the fight for other people though.

As someone who lives in Turkey (which you might consider as dictatorship), I might get arrested for this post, just for calling turkey a dictatorship.

Fun, eh?

The reason I do not kill myself is hope, that I'll be able to get off here one day. That and antidepressants.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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post #53

What is the proposed recourse? Ban Facebook from analyzing data that users give it? I use Facebook's automatic tagging because I find it useful. Should it be illegal for me to use this feature because someone might unintentionally be identified in a photo that I took? Is the argument that Facebook--or any other company--should never be allowed to develop software that could process data that could identify folks, eve…

> What is the proposed recourse? Ban Facebook from analyzing data that users give it? I think the answer's obvious -- replace Facebook with an entity, hypothetical at present, that's controlled by its users, not a corporate board of directors whose loyalty is to themselves and to stockholders, people for whom subscribers are a product being offered up for sale. I'm obviously speaking hypothetically -- there's essenti…

Communism would't work, without some benevolent AI running it. People incharge of managing the system will have reason in billions to be corrupt. Such useful info, will always be monetised, right now we can follow the money, take away the legal way and a backdoor will open which will be more difficult to tame.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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What is the proposed recourse? Ban Facebook from analyzing data that users give it? I use Facebook's automatic tagging because I find it useful. Should it be illegal for me to use this feature because someone might unintentionally be identified in a photo that I took? Is the argument that Facebook--or any other company--should never be allowed to develop software that could process data that could identify folks, eve…

> Should it be illegal for me to use this feature because someone might unintentionally be identified in a photo that I took?

Regulating against it would be reasonable. What's the utility to the end user?

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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post #24

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The problem isn't computing power, it's algorithm accuracy. If there are thousands of people who are a close-enough match to your face, then when they see your face in a random crowd at a train station, they don't know which of those people you are. To fix this they'd probably need other heuristics, which for all I know they're already using. An easy one would be to narrow it down by location, though sometimes that'd…

There are companies who are selling tech that will recognise a person rapidly walking past in a conference crowd (had it demoed to me), so yes the tech is definitely capable now

That's still a small population to choose from.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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post #66

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You may be interested in the movement against facial recognition [1]. [1] https://cvdazzle.com/

My iPhone camera face detection was able to detect some of the camouflaged examples instantly.

Worth making the distinction between a human face in general, and the face of a specific human.
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