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Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Facebook had blocked peoples account if they have different opinions and thats just is big no no. I prefer services where I don't have to be thinking what facebook is thinking of my post.

People please get out of these internet ghettos where they restrict your "freedom of speech" to zero.

Facebook, so gone!

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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I will never disagree with advancing software, because at the end of the day if we don't, someone else will. But I do disagree with companies taking advantage of the laws. There is no privacy law at the moment that bans Facebook from seeing you in someone else's picture and locating where you were, and targeting ads at you based on that information. But it is common decency to have some respect, and discard that info…

Devil's advocate: there's also no evidence that Facebook is spotting users in airport selfies and targeting ads based on that data. Even if there were laws, it would be impossible to show whether or not they are (or aren't) complying. I guess my point is, how would such a law be crafted to be a) reasonably enforceable and b) not impede on the rights of users who want such services

True but you don't train a neural network out of thin air; the data has to come from somewhere. I expect it would require radically new laws that target AI.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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That age old "I have nothing to hide" argument. AKA "they're nice people, what could go wrong". This is not the point. The point is: Information in the wrong hands can become dangerous , period. People change. Companies change. You have no guarantee Facebook will preserve the vision they have right now. You have no guarantee their new CEO won't have a different opinion... (wont be a "Trump"). Also you have to realize…

Not OP but even if the next Hitler would get all my Facebook data I still don't care personally. Am I naive? I do understand why people have a problem with it though.

Ok so when will you be zipping up all your personal data and uploading it for me to examine?

And please also post your passwords to Facebook and bank accounts.

On a more serious note, are you potentially related to anybody Muslim or Jewish? Have you ever posted political comments or links? Are any of your acquaintances hardline left or right wingers? All sorts of seemingly harmless things today will get you on a list tomorrow.

It's impossible to say that you don't have anything to hide, because you don't even know yet today what you may need to hide tomorrow.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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For the sake of discussion, why is that scary rather than kind of nice? Unless you take the AdBlock route, aren't well targeted ads better than irrelevant ones?

I understand the responses to this, but my take is we're so far past the Rubicon we might as well be in the Atlantic. For example, I have a friend who has never been on any social media. If he wanted to opt out of the surveillance apparatus, he still would have to address: collection of phone metadata, browsing history, traffic cams, other CCTV, financial paper trail, probably more I'm missing.

I wrote an essay in 2003, saying that all of this was 100% inevitable. No matter how many people thought it was creepy, didn't want it, raised privacy concerns, it was imminent all the same. Digital sense organs would continue to multiply all over the planet, and the digital nervous system would become ever more sophisticated and scary-smart all the time.

I argued that the one thing we had some limited hope of shaping was cultural attitudes and public policy towards this information and how it is applied.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Anyone know this technology well enough to know if sunglasses and a scarf of some sort would prevent my being recognized if not making me look somewhat silly or suspicious.

This doesn't really answer your question directly but I find a fun exercise is to take a picture of a face and modify it (clip it, skew, morph, rotate, repeat, etc), and then see at which point Facebook will cease to recognize a face in the image (and then perhaps your face specifically), while you still do . The real point is that: I believe there are some images in the search space that any recognition algorithm wi…

Any recognition algorithm? How does your brain do it then, magic?

Re: Facebook is terrifying

#107

What is the proposed recourse? Ban Facebook from analyzing data that users give it? I use Facebook's automatic tagging because I find it useful. Should it be illegal for me to use this feature because someone might unintentionally be identified in a photo that I took? Is the argument that Facebook--or any other company--should never be allowed to develop software that could process data that could identify folks, eve…

Not saying I agree, but an argument could be made that other people need to be blurred before it is shared with a third party, if they have a legal right to control images of themselves.

If you accept that people do have this right the logical conclusion is then you are infringing and causing harm to them by taking their photo and sharing it with Facebook. If you don't think people should have that right, I am not convinced there is any infringement going on and this creepy database is just the inevitable end result.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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You probably never lived under communism. Often people got in trouble not because they were dissenting, but merely being associated with somebody that was a political dissenter. The usual term of accusation was called: "Agitation and propaganda" for the imperialist/capitalist regimes. So, why you might have been squeak clean, if your friend, or your cousin was not, then you were considered a problem just by associati…

If I start living in a dictatorship all of a sudden I feel my Facebook data will the least of my problems. It's such a minor issue in my mind that it's like worrying about whether the earth will be hit by a meteor.

He's saying that if you live in a dictatorship, your Facebook data may literally lead to your death.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

#109

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I will never disagree with advancing software, because at the end of the day if we don't, someone else will. But I do disagree with companies taking advantage of the laws. There is no privacy law at the moment that bans Facebook from seeing you in someone else's picture and locating where you were, and targeting ads at you based on that information. But it is common decency to have some respect, and discard that info…

Devil's advocate: there's also no evidence that Facebook is spotting users in airport selfies and targeting ads based on that data. Even if there were laws, it would be impossible to show whether or not they are (or aren't) complying. I guess my point is, how would such a law be crafted to be a) reasonably enforceable and b) not impede on the rights of users who want such services

Blur out people without explicit consent. Draconian, yes, enforceable, certainly.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

#110

I've been using Facebook since college (circa 2005). Never "hidden" my profile from anyone or the public. Never deactivated anything or deleted a post. Recruiters and acquaintances look up my profile all the time. Still, I have never had the data I've given them come back to haunt me. I still trust Facebook leadership very much in this regard. Maybe it's because I trust myself and how I utilize the technology. Or may…

In fact, I would wish Facebook to contract with and take over identity management systems (ie. social security, drivers license) away from local and federal government - not to dictate policy but just to dictate infrastructure. Is it "fear-mongering" to bring up this episode again? Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Reda…

> Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

What's SNS?

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