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Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by jitbit »

Rainymood wrote: post #68
jitbit wrote: post #67

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I had a similar moment (and ironically I'm a musician too). I went to a bar, where a band was playing on stage... After a while I realized I know the drummer. I played with him before, in another band, years ago. We had a beer, chatted a bit and went home. Now, we hadn't posted any pictures, nor statuses, we have no mutual friends on facebook, no connection at all... Heck, Facebook DIDN'T EVEN EXIST when I last saw h…

Isnt this just location based matching?

But I didn't touch my phone that night... I'm not sure what happened exactly, the fact is - it made me super uncomfortable.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by Kiro »

elastic_church wrote: post #34
Kiro wrote: post #30

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Not OP but even if the next Hitler would get all my Facebook data I still don't care personally. Am I naive? I do understand why people have a problem with it though.

People have been fired or denied employment from "groups" they "liked" way back in the heydays of Facebook. Very benign things can activate very discretionary things in other people.

If I get fired because of my Facebook profile I'm sure I wouldn't want to work there anyway.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by arjie »

Yo, how do you guys survive with all of these things being terrifying and scary? Do you live in a world with a perpetual fear response and adrenalin running all the time? Like, you walk down the street and there's a security camera and you're terrified?

I can't imagine someone lying in bed terrified at the thought that someone somewhere took a selfie with them in the background. That doesn't sound normal at all.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by guscost »

jitbit wrote: post #67
mmjaa wrote: post #35

Its not just faces .. me and a friend had a little jam session recently and posted a picture of our cool little setup, consisting of a few pocket-sized machines (synthesizers and controllers) on our table in front of us. Just an innocent little picture of our jam setup. Within seconds of posting this picture of the machines, my friend was getting targeted ads from the manufacturers of those devices - within seconds!…

I had a similar moment (and ironically I'm a musician too). I went to a bar, where a band was playing on stage... After a while I realized I know the drummer. I played with him before, in another band, years ago. We had a beer, chatted a bit and went home. Now, we hadn't posted any pictures, nor statuses, we have no mutual friends on facebook, no connection at all... Heck, Facebook DIDN'T EVEN EXIST when I last saw h…

Not to say this is definitely what happened, but he could have looked you up on FB which might tip off the suggestions algorithm.

That's a whole other can of worms, of course.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by Kiro »

ferbivore wrote: post #43
Kiro wrote: post #30

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Not OP but even if the next Hitler would get all my Facebook data I still don't care personally. Am I naive? I do understand why people have a problem with it though.

That's because you don't have anything to hide right now. But you never really know what class will be targeted next. Maybe you don't care because you're not Jewish, or not a Muslim, or not a right-winger, or not a feminist... but whatever class you are part of could be the next one everyone hates.

I find it so unlikely that my Facebook data will ever constitute such a problem and even if it happens, well so be it. I have much more realistic and current problems to worry about. I just can't be bothered, even if I hear what you say.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by k-mcgrady »

hacker_9 wrote: post #5

"If you're not paying, you are the product" It used to be that the law couldn't catch up with the fast change in technology, now it's us the people that can't keep up. All my friends using Facebook don't comprehend what is going on, it's just pictures right? The idea that FB is creating highly detailed profiles of every user, and selling them to anyone who will pay, is just dismissed as a joke. What good can come fro…

>> "It used to be that the law couldn't catch up with the fast change in technology, now it's us the people that can't keep up."

And I think that, in turn, is holding the law back further. If people don't understand why something is a problem, they don't care and nobody is going to waste time evolving the law to protect them from harms they don't even know are occurring.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by Kiro »

walterstucco wrote: post #54
Kiro wrote: post #30

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Not OP but even if the next Hitler would get all my Facebook data I still don't care personally. Am I naive? I do understand why people have a problem with it though.

Yes, you are.

Even when I paint the worst possible scenario in my mind (I get killed because of my Facebook data) it's still not something I can be bothered about. I could just as well be hit by a car tomorrow but I don't worry about that.

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by [deleted] »

jitbit wrote: post #67
mmjaa wrote: post #35

Its not just faces .. me and a friend had a little jam session recently and posted a picture of our cool little setup, consisting of a few pocket-sized machines (synthesizers and controllers) on our table in front of us. Just an innocent little picture of our jam setup. Within seconds of posting this picture of the machines, my friend was getting targeted ads from the manufacturers of those devices - within seconds!…

I had a similar moment (and ironically I'm a musician too). I went to a bar, where a band was playing on stage... After a while I realized I know the drummer. I played with him before, in another band, years ago. We had a beer, chatted a bit and went home. Now, we hadn't posted any pictures, nor statuses, we have no mutual friends on facebook, no connection at all... Heck, Facebook DIDN'T EVEN EXIST when I last saw h…

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Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by mmjaa »

jraines wrote: post #39
mmjaa wrote: post #35

Its not just faces .. me and a friend had a little jam session recently and posted a picture of our cool little setup, consisting of a few pocket-sized machines (synthesizers and controllers) on our table in front of us. Just an innocent little picture of our jam setup. Within seconds of posting this picture of the machines, my friend was getting targeted ads from the manufacturers of those devices - within seconds!…

For the sake of discussion, why is that scary rather than kind of nice? Unless you take the AdBlock route, aren't well targeted ads better than irrelevant ones?

Its scary because its intrusive. I didn't post the picture so that I would get better ads - rather, to inform my friends that we were having a jam session. But now, we're all going to be bombarded with ads for instruments we don't need to buy (because we already have them).

The most uncomfortable angle is just how quickly Facebook tuned into what we were doing and then changed its ad-delivery algorithm to match. I have one friend who had his picture taken in front of a headshop - he now gets regular ads for bongs and smoke accessories, even though he's not a user. So, that's also quite discomfiting ..

Re: Facebook is terrifying

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Post by kafkaesq »

Kiro wrote: post #30
jitbit wrote: post #15

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That age old "I have nothing to hide" argument. AKA "they're nice people, what could go wrong". This is not the point. The point is: Information in the wrong hands can become dangerous , period. People change. Companies change. You have no guarantee Facebook will preserve the vision they have right now. You have no guarantee their new CEO won't have a different opinion... (wont be a "Trump"). Also you have to realize…

Not OP but even if the next Hitler would get all my Facebook data I still don't care personally. Am I naive? I do understand why people have a problem with it though.

Am I naive?

Yes. Very.

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