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Alexa isn’t the future of AI–it’s a glorified radio clock, and stupid otherwise

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Re: Alexa isn’t the future of AI–it’s a glorified radio clock, and stupid otherwise

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You need to put the payload inside the vehicle before you deliver it. Your chances of successfully installing it later fall asymptotically towards zero.

Remote update.

...which is why your phone keeps getting slower, as it's loaded with code written for better models as a way of marketing their superior capacity. Same reason you can't fit a jet engine to a biplane and expect good performance.

Re: Alexa isn’t the future of AI–it’s a glorified radio clock, and stupid otherwise

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Being "really good" may not be enough. If it's not perfect, being "really good" could actually make it worse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

http://www.creawavestudio.com/interfaces_vocales/ Is it good enough for you? :) Note: I worked there in 2013, they are smart people. And yes, these are _computer generated_ messages, with human voices.

That's actually pretty neat! So how come other voices don't match this? Is it the fact that intonation in a single domain (weather) is easier to predict than if the voice needs to handle general (broad) topics of conversation?

Re: Alexa isn’t the future of AI–it’s a glorified radio clock, and stupid otherwise

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http://www.creawavestudio.com/interfaces_vocales/ Is it good enough for you? :) Note: I worked there in 2013, they are smart people. And yes, these are _computer generated_ messages, with human voices.

That's actually pretty neat! So how come other voices don't match this? Is it the fact that intonation in a single domain (weather) is easier to predict than if the voice needs to handle general (broad) topics of conversation?

It's not about the topic, but mostly the technique. You have to record and process a few hours of human speech in a studio (when I was there the "studio" was a closet with blankets on the wall). Most of the words are not cut in the same way as others text-to-speech engine would do, to preserve intonation, hence longer recording times and a "grammar" limited to the the span of the recorded vocabulary (see if you can catch how the topic is always about the rain. Maybe it was due to us being in britany, a very rainy french region)

However, given the number of complaints here, I don't think a cap on the number of topics she can discuss would be an issue for Alexa.

Re: Alexa isn’t the future of AI–it’s a glorified radio clock, and stupid otherwise

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I don't get this rant. Alexa is still bleeding edge. It does some things really well. It does some things really poorly. There are lots of things it can't do. So the main complaint is that Alexa could be better, your point..? To me, right now it excels as an interface when you are busy doing something else. Ours is used most in the kitchen and living room. Timers, streaming music/audio and basic facts all work great.…

> I think the biggest downside of voice UI right now is a lack of authentication. Someone outside the window could yell "Alexa, open the door".

I think this is the most overlooked use case that needs to be addressed. Even in a secure residence, if you leave a 2nd story window open it might be possible to get the audio to Alexa. Though I suppose these skills could add a 2-factor to the unlocking mechanism.

"Alexa unlock the door."

"Ok, what is the passcode."

"123456"

"Thanks, unlocking door."

The problem I see is I don't want 2-factor on everything.

Re: Alexa isn’t the future of AI–it’s a glorified radio clock, and stupid otherwise

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I don't get this rant. Alexa is still bleeding edge. It does some things really well. It does some things really poorly. There are lots of things it can't do. So the main complaint is that Alexa could be better, your point..? To me, right now it excels as an interface when you are busy doing something else. Ours is used most in the kitchen and living room. Timers, streaming music/audio and basic facts all work great.…

> I can't wait until they are connected and I can issue a command to move streaming from one device to another one in another room ("Alexa, pause for Jim", "Alexa, continue for Jim").

Too much overhead. It should be able to identify you by voice, so you can just ask it to "pause" and "resume".

Re: Alexa isn’t the future of AI–it’s a glorified radio clock, and stupid otherwise

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I don't get this rant. Alexa is still bleeding edge. It does some things really well. It does some things really poorly. There are lots of things it can't do. So the main complaint is that Alexa could be better, your point..? To me, right now it excels as an interface when you are busy doing something else. Ours is used most in the kitchen and living room. Timers, streaming music/audio and basic facts all work great.…

> I can't wait until they are connected and I can issue a command to move streaming from one device to another one in another room Google Home can do this to a degree today. You are capable of saying things like "Play X on my TV." if your TV is wired up with a ChromeCast. In general, Google Home is very far ahead of Alexa. I agree with the opinion that Alexa is a glorified radio, but I don't believe that opinion exte…

You give a really vanilla use case and than suggest Google Home is superior. Can you give me a use case where it actually demonstrates it is far ahead.

The Chromecast example isn't supporting your claim in my opinion.

Re: Alexa isn’t the future of AI–it’s a glorified radio clock, and stupid otherwise

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I don't get this rant. Alexa is still bleeding edge. It does some things really well. It does some things really poorly. There are lots of things it can't do. So the main complaint is that Alexa could be better, your point..? To me, right now it excels as an interface when you are busy doing something else. Ours is used most in the kitchen and living room. Timers, streaming music/audio and basic facts all work great.…

> I think the biggest downside of voice UI right now is a lack of authentication. Someone outside the window could yell "Alexa, open the door". I think this is the most overlooked use case that needs to be addressed. Even in a secure residence, if you leave a 2nd story window open it might be possible to get the audio to Alexa. Though I suppose these skills could add a 2-factor to the unlocking mechanism. "Alexa unlo…

Well, if it was

"Alexa unlock the door."

"Ok, what is the passcode."

"123456"

"Thanks, unlocking door."

Now that I think of it, as someone that has 3 different 2f tokens.. smart watch integration would actually be useful in general... If I had a smart watch.

Re: Alexa isn’t the future of AI–it’s a glorified radio clock, and stupid otherwise

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> I think the biggest downside of voice UI right now is a lack of authentication. Someone outside the window could yell "Alexa, open the door". I think this is the most overlooked use case that needs to be addressed. Even in a secure residence, if you leave a 2nd story window open it might be possible to get the audio to Alexa. Though I suppose these skills could add a 2-factor to the unlocking mechanism. "Alexa unlo…

Well, if it was "Alexa unlock the door." "Ok, what is the passcode." "123456" "Thanks, unlocking door." Now that I think of it, as someone that has 3 different 2f tokens.. smart watch integration would actually be useful in general... If I had a smart watch.

That's all just going the long way around. Why not just have the door (or Alexa) be able to talk Bluetooth to the watch to verify that it's there?

Re: Alexa isn’t the future of AI–it’s a glorified radio clock, and stupid otherwise

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I don't get the fascination with this tech. The computer in Star Trek at least had a personality and intonation in its voice when it responded, even though it sounded like a synthesized voice. The key here is intonation -- the infinitely varying way in which we vary the speed and pitch of our voices in response to another human being. It's very subtle and something Amaazon, Google and Siri have been unable to capture…

I think I like the Google voice best. Still doesn't compare to Microsoft Sam, though...

Is that the same as Talking Sam on the C64? That was the first synthesized speech I ever got to play with.

I also had the speech module on my TI-99/4A. That was pretty sweet. That led to me buying a bunch of SPO256 chips from Radio Shack that I eventually wired to up to a little line-following robot that I made. I was the only one that could understand it.

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