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Those Aren’t Fighting Words, Dear

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Re: Those Aren’t Fighting Words, Dear

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post #20

I forwarded this to my (soon to be ex-) wife. I wish I had such an understanding partner...

I think that wishing for it to be one way is what makes it not work. This woman's husband didn't want an understanding partner, he wanted a battle. And she didn't want to understand, she just wanted to not get caught up in it herself.

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#22
post #19

I like to call it a "midlife adjustment" and there is not a person alive who gets to that age who does not have to deal with it at some level - it really is the transitioning from the phase of life where everything points up to that in-between phase where things slow down, age starts to show itself more, and our mortality looms nearer. We all react to it differently but react we do, unless we are beyond feeling. This…

"there is not a person alive who gets to that age who does not have to deal with it at some level"

I figure that there are multiple events in everyone's lives like this: quarterlife crisis, midlife crisis, tragedies, deaths of loved ones, broken relationships- these are part of the shared human experience. I occasionally try to remind myself that in all likelihood, I'll have to go through each one of these situations at some point in life. If I mentally prepare for them in the present, it usually doesn't take away the pain when I do find my world turned upside down, but it certainly helps me see the light at the end of the tunnel and think more clearly.

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#23
post #11

Who knows how to make love stay? “When we're incomplete, we're always searching for somebody to complete us. When, after a few years or a few months of a relationship, we find that we're still unfulfilled, we blame our partners and take up with somebody more promising. This can go on and on--series polygamy--until we admit that while a partner can add sweet dimensions to our lives, we, each of us, are responsible for…

Great quote. Made me curious about the author.

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#24
post #19

I like to call it a "midlife adjustment" and there is not a person alive who gets to that age who does not have to deal with it at some level - it really is the transitioning from the phase of life where everything points up to that in-between phase where things slow down, age starts to show itself more, and our mortality looms nearer. We all react to it differently but react we do, unless we are beyond feeling. This…

I am not disagreeing with you but can I just say that you can really only know how it affected you - and as it felt so natural it is easy to assume that everybody is affected in a similar way.

I remember reading a pedophile stating that all men were attracted to young girls, deep down in their hearts. Anyone who denied it would be lying, to their surroundings or themselves. It's easy to see how someone who has such desires would think that it applies to everybody because it feels so ingrained.

As I said, I am not disagreeing with your point, just making an observation about how easy it is to see one self as the norm.

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#25
post #11

Who knows how to make love stay? “When we're incomplete, we're always searching for somebody to complete us. When, after a few years or a few months of a relationship, we find that we're still unfulfilled, we blame our partners and take up with somebody more promising. This can go on and on--series polygamy--until we admit that while a partner can add sweet dimensions to our lives, we, each of us, are responsible for…

For me, the harder problem is finding a partner who will not detract from my substantial existing fulfillment.

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post #22
post #19

I like to call it a "midlife adjustment" and there is not a person alive who gets to that age who does not have to deal with it at some level - it really is the transitioning from the phase of life where everything points up to that in-between phase where things slow down, age starts to show itself more, and our mortality looms nearer. We all react to it differently but react we do, unless we are beyond feeling. This…

"there is not a person alive who gets to that age who does not have to deal with it at some level" I figure that there are multiple events in everyone's lives like this: quarterlife crisis, midlife crisis, tragedies, deaths of loved ones, broken relationships- these are part of the shared human experience. I occasionally try to remind myself that in all likelihood, I'll have to go through each one of these situations…

I'm probably a little unusual in being in my mid-30s and still not having experienced the death of a loved one. I try to tell myself it's inevitable, but I can't bring myself to really believe it - I think unfortunately this means it's going to hit me pretty hard when it actually happens.

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#27
post #5

Steps to writing an annoying article: 1. Deny you're calling your husband childish while comparing him to a child. 2. Proclaim that you're impervious to abuse by touting your toughness as if those in abusive relationships are not physically tough enough. 3. Highlight your suffering martyrdom as much as possible while claiming that you refuse to suffer.

Almost everything gets compared to cars, but I don't think most people are actually accusing those things of being car-like. I have never understood exactly what causes it, but some people very often read far too much into comparisons. The two things being compared don't have to be alike except in the particular respects that are being compared.

It's unfortunate, because comparisons are really useful for illustrating ideas to pattern-matching machines like our minds, but people like this make comparisons almost useless because they always lash out at anybody who makes one.

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#28
post #9
post #2

I'm not even going to write about how this applies to hackers and why it could be a good lesson. I really just want to say: "that was nice to read".

Same here. It had me thinking, "Are there more than 5 people in the world with the wisdom and self-assurance to actually pull this off?"

Wisdom and self-assurance matter less than the ability to conceive of a world where this kind of a response is possible. As widely-circulated an article as this was creates people capable of pulling it off.

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#29
post #6
post #5

Steps to writing an annoying article: 1. Deny you're calling your husband childish while comparing him to a child. 2. Proclaim that you're impervious to abuse by touting your toughness as if those in abusive relationships are not physically tough enough. 3. Highlight your suffering martyrdom as much as possible while claiming that you refuse to suffer.

> 1. Deny you're calling your husband childish while comparing him to a child. She was using that as a metaphor. Using an image with which everyone (or at least most people) can identify. Being angry/upset with yourself (or just your situation) and taking it out on others is not something that is restricted to childhood. The metaphor works better in terms of describing the method of dealing with it (i.e. ignoring it,…

Ah, it was just a metaphor. That makes it alright then.

Also, from the follow-up article: "I am a 40-year-old trying to be a 20-year-old, and I realise my career is done with and I have to find something else" - not sure if that is really a victory to be proud of?

Re: Those Aren’t Fighting Words, Dear

#30
post #11

Who knows how to make love stay? “When we're incomplete, we're always searching for somebody to complete us. When, after a few years or a few months of a relationship, we find that we're still unfulfilled, we blame our partners and take up with somebody more promising. This can go on and on--series polygamy--until we admit that while a partner can add sweet dimensions to our lives, we, each of us, are responsible for…

For me, the harder problem is finding a partner who will not detract from my substantial existing fulfillment.

How do you mean, exactly?
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