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Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Correct! Compare it to a group that care about their PC, i.e. gamers, 50% of Steam users run Windows 10. https://www.pcgamesn.com/steam-hardware-survey-windows-10-ad...

Maybe I'm misreading your comment but I think you're implying that people who care (like gamers) are less likely to be using Windows 10, but it's the opposite - 50% is far higher than the total market share Windows 10 has. If I misunderstood your meaning, then this comment can just be a clarification instead of a correction :)

You misunderstood. :-) Yes, gamers are above market share for Windows 10 because they care. They want the newest, the best.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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I'm a gamer and developer in high performance stuff. I've seen a concrete improvement in both average performance and responsiveness in going from win 7 to win 10 on the same machine.

I recently installed both Windows 7 (32 bit) and Windows 10 (32 bit) on a 1 GB memory machine. Memory pressure from 10 was lower than 7.

Most likely from the compressed pages.

I recently bought a 2GB Ideapad to use as a toss around machine. I wish it had come with 32-bit Win10 but MS's stupid rules require 64-bit on any processor capable of using it.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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I'm most of the time using Linux but Windows 10 is quite fast and usable if you are willing to do the dance to check all privacy settings and clean the Start Menu of the spam. I don't use an online id for logging in and use this tool to fix privacy settings: https://modzero.github.io/fix-windows-privacy/ (read the fine print, it's quite invasive!) there are powershell scripts for cleaning the start menu - I don't hav…

After neutering all the new "features" it's a GREAT system! Really!

Shrug. I have to do the same thing in OSX. Every major update I google what's changed and then disable 90% of it. In what world do I want Siri on my laptop…

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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I run - using the word very loosely - Win 10 on a mid-spec 8GB Dell Laptop. It's literally unusably slow. Opening File Manager takes many minutes. This is practically a fresh install. I have Office 365 installed, but very little else. I don't even have a mail client set up. I dual-boot to Ubuntu on the same machine, and the latter is perfectly usable.

You either have a hardware problem (mechanical disk?) or a problem with some preinstalled software running in the background. 8GB with even a several years old CPU should be perfectly usable. SSD is absolutely required though. No number of cores and gigs will compensate for the lack of ssd.

> You either have a hardware problem (mechanical disk?)

Windows 10 cannot work on a hard drive?

In a way, it makes sense: when my father upgraded from Seven to W10, W10 never worked properly and killed the hard drive in a matter of 3 days.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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I must be in the huge minority. I haven't had a single issue with Windows 10 (if we disregard privacy). Literally everything has just worked. I will say thinking about it that my computer used for 99.99% gaming/internet/text documents. I keep anticipating that something is going to go horribly wrong but so far it's been great. I hate the menu and store that it shows so almost everything I tend to open has a shortcut…

My biggest issue with it is the forced restarts.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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post #343

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After neutering all the new "features" it's a GREAT system! Really!

Shrug. I have to do the same thing in OSX. Every major update I google what's changed and then disable 90% of it. In what world do I want Siri on my laptop…

Same here, a couple years back I decided the effort needed to build linux up was less than the effort to tear OS X, Windows down. The end state is a little more customized to my prefs too.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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I get (maybe) your argument when it comes to Windows 7 -> Windows 10, but I think you're overestimating how hard it is to get up and running with Arch Linux. Following an Arch install tutorial shouldn't take anyone here on Hackernews more than 2 hours to get their DE, networking etc. up and going. You should try it. It's fun!

Arch isn't that hard to set up - I'll agree with you there. Where it falls down, though, is when you need to install something where there isn't a package for it. Now, of course, you could just go old-school and "manual install" whatever you want. But let's say you didn't want to do that, because you got tired of having a system full of cruft due to all these funky pieces of software scattered about the system that t…

> It seemed to me to create an install package for a piece of software, the process (according to the docs) was to install the software "manually" and keep track of where everything goes. Then, once you have done that (and the software is running fine), you are supposed to create your package manifesto (or whatever it was called) that tells the system how to install it, then take all the parts and bundle them up (as a compressed file of some sort) with that manifesto. Oh - and then manually "uninstall" your software you installed, then use your new package to re-install your now-packaged proprietary software.

This might be technically correct (not completely sure), but hugely misleading. Packages are defined by PKGBUILD scripts. When you run `makepkg` to create a package, it creates a directory called $pkgdir. In your PKGBUILD, you just delegate to whatever installer came with the source code & tell it to install into $pkgdir. e.g. `make install --prefix=$pkgdir`. makepkg takes all the files in $pkgdir and tars them and bam - there's your package.

If you look in most PKGBUILDs, they contain some metadata (where to get the sources, etc), and then it's more or less:

    build() {  
        cd "$srcdir" && make  
    }  
    package() {  
        cd "$srcdir" && make install --prefix="$pkgdir"  
    }
That's all you need for quite a few packages.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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* Secure Boot * BitLocker: Hard-drive encryption backed by TPM & Secure Boot With the above two and DMA protection, physical access attacks become very difficult. * Virtual Secure Mode (VSM) - separate OS running on the hypervisor that can perform sensitive operations. Which enables: 1. Device Guard - Runs code integrity protection, i.e. only allowing signed code to run, from within the VSM. 2. Credential Guard - Run…

> With the above two and DMA protection, physical access attacks become very difficult. Physical attacks aren't part of my threat model on a desktop PC. Indeed these protections feel more like DRM - trying to protect the computer from the (legitimate) user.

Preventing unsigned code from running, and choosing which sources of software you do want to trust, is not just for DRM. It severely reduces the attack surface of a device and makes it much harder for user error to cause a compromise. Accidentally getting compromised is possible for advanced users, let alone the most tech-illiterate person in the company.

iOS being totally locked down in this way is no small part of why exploits for that platform sell for so much more money than exploits for other platforms. Of course, it is also used for DRM on that platform.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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That is the tragedy of win10. It's actually a great OS but the lack of respect for user preferences around privacy and updates ruins it for power users. I have to think that the engineers who did the work to make win10 as efficient and stable as it is had cortana and dark UI patterns shoved down their throats. cortana is clippy, we all know that. Who thought it was a good idea to bring back clippy?! Could not have be…

There are plenty of bad parts too. The start menu keeps freezing regularly for me on multiple machines. Searching in the start menu returns random results. Settings scattered across multiple control panels is just absurd. In-OS advertising is a complete no go to me. The nagging to use edge too. The frequent forced reboots and full screen notifications are a nuisance. And it makes it really difficult to change default…

Sometimes when I try to rename a folder in my home folder, Windows Explorer will lock up until I forcibly restart it.

Start menu search seems slower and the returned results are worse than in Windows 7, Unity, XFCE, or any alternative I've experienced. Searching "irefox" doesn't find Firefox. Maybe it's because I've disabled a number of privacy-sensitive features in Windows 10, but Windows 7 managed to make this work without spying on me.

The lengths they go through to push Edge irk me quite a bit: tagging it "Microsoft Recommended Browser", adding an extra scare prompt when you switch away from it in the control panel, resetting it to default status as part of automatic updates. I've seen screenshots of a popup appearing on the task bar begging the user to switch to edge, but haven't experienced this myself.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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What you can't do, no matter what you try, is to make the Start Menu show all the programs you have installed. But attaching things there is nice. Even better than the KDE menu.

I can't get over this. It doesn't help that the search (start>type) constantly doesn't find apps I'm looking for. It's to the point where I'm pinning everything to my taskbar. My workflow for a decade or more was to hit the Windows key then start typing to find indexed apps. It's almost useless to me now and I don't really get why.

I've basically given up. I just use [Launchy](http://www.launchy.net/) instead.

Although it's discontinued, so I should really find a replacement.

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