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Ask HN: What's your top growth strategy that helped grow your startup?

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Re: Ask HN: What's your top growth strategy that helped grow your startup?

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Isn't most of this common sense stuff? 1) Modern website with seo 2) produce compelling content 3) reduce redundant tools and streamline processes 4) advertise your product 5) advertise your business 6) knowing your customers and decision makers and advertising appropriately 7) understanding your competition

you'd be surprised at how little of common sense is applied in the real world.

maybe common sense was the wrong phrase. It seems like many of these solutions are just basic answers to really simplistic problems: Why is no one visiting our site? Because it is outdated, not optimized, and has no content = Make some improvements

Re: Ask HN: What's your top growth strategy that helped grow your startup?

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For us ( http://www.startupdaybook.com ) a few things have been very effective -- but it did take a lot of trial and error to find those few things. BetaList and Reddit have been a big driver of signups as they have the exact audience we are looking to help (startups) and a wide audience. Blogging has also been a big part of getting signups. Creating helpful posts on Medium with a small product mention at the bottom…

Thanks for sharing. Which subreddits helped you?

/Startups has a "Share Your Startup" each month which is great

Re: Ask HN: What's your top growth strategy that helped grow your startup?

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Hi - the above is very obvious satire: I am showcasing how insane European VC's are. You can see another take from me on this same theme by reading this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12198883 You can read that and then read my reply (scroll down to about the third comment), part of which I'll quote "you've given a lot of hard data but fail to draw the obvious correct conclusions, that the reason you h…

I feel like I understand what you are trying to say, but I still don't see the connection to OP's comment.

The connection is "We are creating an online marketplace for short term work in Germany" and I wanted to congratulate them on getting 3 mil Eur revenue in 2016. To be honest I wanted to hear from them how raising funding has been and made an assumption (which they haven't responded to.) I can't overemphasize what huge genuine revenue numbers those are, for a startup, on the model he has described. If they're not getting investors tripping over themselves to invest at a $10M valuation (and they're almost certainly not) then it really frustrates me. Everything they described was great! I hope this makes the reason for my comment a bit clearer.

I would also love to hear from paskster (the OP I replied to) with what their experience has been like building this kind of game-changing startup, specifically as regards venture capital funding.

Re: Ask HN: What's your top growth strategy that helped grow your startup?

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1) Remade website to be more professional looking, faster, more focused towards SEO, mobile friendly. I could write many pages on this :) but following online guides will get you in the ballpark 2) Started writing interesting content. Truly good content is a PITA and you need to be a decent writer to make something compelling, but our first good article got us more traffic than the entire site with over 100 content p…

> 2) Started writing interesting content. Truly good content is a PITA and you need to be a decent writer to make something compelling, but our first good article got us more traffic than the entire site with over 100 content pages. What was different with that piece of content? Was it only the content or did you also promote/tailor that content to new channels?

I can't really say without giving my details, and as you can see I like throwaways :) especially when I'm at work.

The difference was that the rest of our content was bland marketspeak whitewash garbage stuff. "Expand your client list 5x TODAY" type bs. Also useless PDF whitepapers on project we completed. Pro tip, nobody reads PDF unless it's the only content available, and on Google that's rarely true :).

The new articles were all focused on specific issues that our clients would have. Some favorites: "TWC business modem speed up" "AdWords tracking conversions" "Choosing the right software development company" "Pros and cons of outsourcing development" "Online marketing for small businesses "AdWords overview for CEOs and VP s" "How to hire AdWords expert" "Company outing locations in (cityx)" "Most popular CMS for company websites" "Small business tax audit guide"

Articles with a clear purpose and tailored to what our kind of client, and person, would be searching for. Admittedly this takes some really creative thinking but the results can be amazing.

Not all of our articles were related to what we did at all. They were built so that our target customers would search for them. Business owners, especially local. People looking for custom software even if it's not what they initially have in mind.

Our only channel for these articles was google search. In all, about 95% of our traffic went to new articles straight from Google. We trailered content mainly to our location, and this is probably a wise choice for any small business.

The content raised Google's opinion of how good our site was, even when the article wasn't bringing in sales. Most of the time they would be first page for targeted keywords, about 40% of the time the first result. Some of them are years old now and still first on Google, if that gives you an idea of how powerful well written pieces can be.

Writing the actual content: make sure the article is long and well written. The times/WSJ/new yorker should be a guide for what kind of writing google likes. Long form and extremely focused on a subject. Pictures help too.

Google looks at how many people view your article, for how long, and whether they go back to search afterwords if it wasn't what they wanted. They track future searches related to the article they just brought you to, to see if it has stimulated the person to read more into whatever your article was talking about. So for example the best CMS article. Did the user that read your article end up checking out the CMS you mentioned? They track how often users return to the same article, and probably whether they bookmark it. They even know how deep your knowledge is by comparing the distribution of uncommon words in your article to more trusted sources like journals and high quality books on the same subject. This is all admittedly speculation but google is extremely good at rating the quality of your content. The new AI processing google uses probably doesn't even know why an article is good, it just knows that it is.

The thing that helped me most writing the good articles was a deep background in the subject. For things I didn't know as much about, like managing the business, I would pick the brain of somebody that did know a lot for an hour or two then put it to writing.

If you don't have much knowledge about the things you should be writing about you need to find a decent writer that does.

If you don't want to deal with all that just pay google money for ads, and get really good at "the game". AdWords is extremely competitive and you need somebody with the drive to win at any cost, because the road from the start of your first campaign to something profitable will be expensive and hard.

Channels are overrated IMO :) you can reach around 90% of all web users on Google alone, and close to 100% on Google+fb. To start out at least, just pick a few very pervasive platforms and get really good at using them

Re: Ask HN: What's your top growth strategy that helped grow your startup?

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Hi, I am a coder and want to get better at marketing. Can you shoot me an email as well? Thanks!

At this point I think I'm just going to start the blog I always planned but never did :). I've got about 10 pretty long articles buried in my docs folder about marketing and a bunch of other nonsense. I was never CEO/VP of a company but I've always done my best to "see the forest through the trees" with this kind of stuff.

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Re: Ask HN: What's your top growth strategy that helped grow your startup?

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If your product doesn't suck and it won't sell you suck at marketing. "Growth hacking" is just a SV koolaid rebranding of marketing. It wasn't a start-up but a consulting company I worked at that had stagnated for about 7 years. 6 months later we had redone our whole marketing setup. New site, new branding, new software, lots of advertisement $ shifted. A year later revenue was almost 3x. We raised our rates so profi…

I'll agree with your statement - "Growth hacking" is just a SV koolaid rebranding of marketing.

Growth hacking = marketing. Life hack = common sense - or what used to be common.

Re: Ask HN: What's your top growth strategy that helped grow your startup?

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you'd be surprised at how little of common sense is applied in the real world.

maybe common sense was the wrong phrase. It seems like many of these solutions are just basic answers to really simplistic problems: Why is no one visiting our site? Because it is outdated, not optimized, and has no content = Make some improvements

This is part of what hindered me in getting started. "But these advices are as obvious as Sun Tzu's Art of War, everyone does it".

What I got reading the groovehq blog post that was posted here was that you should be spending little bit of time on multiple strategies until you find one that sticks.

More importantly keeping experiments cheap, fast and not so time consuming to put out in the wild. I liked that <10hr approach from the other HN comment.

Re: Ask HN: What's your top growth strategy that helped grow your startup?

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I'm not sure whether you'd count me: I went from 0 to 10 people in about 5 years (hardly massive growth), there was no secret, just a process of being conservative, slowly growing each year, attempting to full utilize all resources we have, and trying to bring in contracts which will support us both now and in the future.

10 employees or customers?

Re: Ask HN: What's your top growth strategy that helped grow your startup?

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If your product doesn't suck and it won't sell you suck at marketing. "Growth hacking" is just a SV koolaid rebranding of marketing. It wasn't a start-up but a consulting company I worked at that had stagnated for about 7 years. 6 months later we had redone our whole marketing setup. New site, new branding, new software, lots of advertisement $ shifted. A year later revenue was almost 3x. We raised our rates so profi…

As a fellow experienced marketer I would implore you to not use the term "marketing guru." The word "guru" has a really bad connotation with all of the info product snake oil salesmen and wannabe marketers out there. The reality is that marketing is an increasingly specialized and technical domain requiring knowledge of coding, data, etc. and it can be hard enough as it is to help people trust we're not all scammers…

It's true, but on the other hand I can't think of a term for "good marketing person" that hasn't been ruined :).

Re: Ask HN: What's your top growth strategy that helped grow your startup?

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If your product doesn't suck and it won't sell you suck at marketing. "Growth hacking" is just a SV koolaid rebranding of marketing. It wasn't a start-up but a consulting company I worked at that had stagnated for about 7 years. 6 months later we had redone our whole marketing setup. New site, new branding, new software, lots of advertisement $ shifted. A year later revenue was almost 3x. We raised our rates so profi…

What did you do to turn things around though?

I highly suggest this thread to be "stickied" or made aware of in someway. It's literally gold and this is exactly why toiling the jungles of HN comments is worth it-you discover gems that you can put into action.
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