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The woes of Windows 10

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Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by ac29 »

mark-r wrote: post #70

Microsoft is their own worst enemy. My wife can't transition fully from XP to the Windows 7 PC I built for her, because it doesn't have Outlook Express or any reasonable substitute. We can't upgrade the living room PC because Windows 10 doesn't include Media Center. I'm also not fond of the way Windows 10 updates are so aggressive, you'll essentially be replacing your OS every so often without any say-so. If I had an…

Windows Live Mail was the replacement for Outlook Express. Microsoft ended support last month and pulled the download links, but I found a direct link here: http://wl.dlservice.microsoft.com/download/C/1/B/C1BA42D6-6A...

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by chinathrow »

deburo wrote: post #64
akappa wrote: post #20

I think there's an obvious and more general question here to be answered: if a piece of software is good enough, namely, it "disappears" when you are trying to do your job, then why bother to change it? Yes, the new version might enable a more efficient workflow, or might be faster to boot-up. But people hate changes and you need to invest considerable time in upgrading a piece of software (the upgrade itself + learn…

Indeed, Win7 being good enough and not degrading in any way is a big challenge facing Win10 adoption, and that has been said times enough before. Once Win7 is out of support, may it be from popular applications or simply security updates, we may see things changing. There's also the factor of familiarity to consider. People buying new machines will learn the new system, and overtime as they learn how to use it, they…

Some say Windows 2000 was good enough already. Everything worked well.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by edoceo »

happypants23 wrote: post #55
frik wrote: post #25

No wonder that Win10 fails like Win8 - Microsoft doesn't care about users, they only care about their shareholders. Win8 and Win10 looks like designed by color blind designers with a bad taste the brutalism of UI design plus the phone-home spyware features that cannot be deactivated. Windows 7 is too good and the perfect OS, if you don't install some recent spyware updates it will last at least until 2020 - and who k…

I rather like the clean aesthetic of Windows 10, and am now using it as my main OS. Sure, it's by no means perfect, and there is still work to be done. But by and large I am happier with Windows 10 than with MacOS, Ubuntu, GNOME, and so on. Oh, and the whole "spyware" trope is becoming overworn. User analytics is here to stay, and practically every website and browser does it anyway. At least you can disable it in Wi…

They've already demonstrated they won't use this to build features you want.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by vvanders »

mnm1 wrote: post #80
akappa wrote: post #20

I think there's an obvious and more general question here to be answered: if a piece of software is good enough, namely, it "disappears" when you are trying to do your job, then why bother to change it? Yes, the new version might enable a more efficient workflow, or might be faster to boot-up. But people hate changes and you need to invest considerable time in upgrading a piece of software (the upgrade itself + learn…

Profit. How else is Microsoft (or any other company) going to make money off software no one needs or wants? Other than rehashing the same old product and pushing it onto users for more money, more surveillance, or both, they have nothing of value to sell on the software side. Even if they did have something of value to sell, over 90% of the people have already bought their product. Gotta keep the cash rolling in so…

There's been some really good progress made on the tablet mode in Win10. It's not really apparent if you're using it as a Desktop OS.

Specifically the Surface Book does a really good job of making the windows "experience" work in a keyboardless scenario. I'm sure the same is true of the other convertable hardware that's been popping up lately.

I'll concede that this isn't the majority of users but I would argue it's not just a rewrapping of existing software.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by wildmusings »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #53
wildmusings wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* Secure Boot * BitLocker: Hard-drive encryption backed by TPM & Secure Boot With the above two and DMA protection, physical access attacks become very difficult. * Virtual Secure Mode (VSM) - separate OS running on the hypervisor that can perform sensitive operations. Which enables: 1. Device Guard - Runs code integrity protection, i.e. only allowing signed code to run, from within the VSM. 2. Credential Guard - Run…

Regarding hard drive encryption backed by TPM, a) this has been a thing since Win7, and b) google tells me it only works OOTB on Win10 if you sign into Windows with your Microsoft account; how many people do that? If that's the secret sauce that makes Win10 so much better, color me unimpressed. And neither of those features offer additional protection against zero-days (neither does VSM), which are what the TFA discu…

It only works OOTB with a Microsoft Account because the OS needs a place to backup the key. The alternative is that if the user forgets their password, they lose their data forever. You can still turn it on manually very easily with a local account.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by RileyKyeden »

jasonkostempski wrote: post #66
happypants23 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I rather like the clean aesthetic of Windows 10, and am now using it as my main OS. Sure, it's by no means perfect, and there is still work to be done. But by and large I am happier with Windows 10 than with MacOS, Ubuntu, GNOME, and so on. Oh, and the whole "spyware" trope is becoming overworn. User analytics is here to stay, and practically every website and browser does it anyway. At least you can disable it in Wi…

"At least you can disable it in Win 10 if you are so inclined." Where is that option? Also, it's easy to get a browser that doesn't phone home and a plugin that stops websites from doing it.

Feedback privacy, found with the search in the settings thing.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by boznz »

jimmaswell wrote: post #77
mark-r wrote: post #70

Microsoft is their own worst enemy. My wife can't transition fully from XP to the Windows 7 PC I built for her, because it doesn't have Outlook Express or any reasonable substitute. We can't upgrade the living room PC because Windows 10 doesn't include Media Center. I'm also not fond of the way Windows 10 updates are so aggressive, you'll essentially be replacing your OS every so often without any say-so. If I had an…

You can disable the Windows Update service.

I'm sure theres a hack but this is not possible in Windows 10 home.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

nxrabl wrote: post #11

> There is no question that Windows 10 is ... quite the most secure operating system ever devised. Telemetry aside, can anyone comment on this?

Compared to BSD? (One of the BSDs, that focuses on security, I forget which one.) Yeah, I don't buy it. But I bet the writer at The Economist never heard of BSD...

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by math0ne »

mark-r wrote: post #70

Microsoft is their own worst enemy. My wife can't transition fully from XP to the Windows 7 PC I built for her, because it doesn't have Outlook Express or any reasonable substitute. We can't upgrade the living room PC because Windows 10 doesn't include Media Center. I'm also not fond of the way Windows 10 updates are so aggressive, you'll essentially be replacing your OS every so often without any say-so. If I had an…

You can pretty easily install media center on windows 10 manually: http://www.windowscentral.com/install-media-center-windows-1...
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