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How Immigration Uncertainty Threatens America’s Tech Dominance

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Re: How Immigration Uncertainty Threatens America’s Tech Dominance

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As if this administration cares about the economy.

Trump is scared. He projects fear. He doesn't want to live amidst diversity. He only supports people who agree with him (e.g. Milo). He figures fights will cause us all to run to our safe spaces and believe that the world is black and white.

The world isn't b&w, it's colorful.

Re: How Immigration Uncertainty Threatens America’s Tech Dominance

#32

Hm, maybe. It's always been uncertain, though. I know plenty of international students when I was at MIT who weren't sure how the visa situation would play out and if they'd have to go back home or what. I'm a little hopeful that the discussed H1-B reforms may actually help countries obtain particularly niche talents more than the outsource-lottery played now. But I think the real threat to our tech dominance is priv…

If you think US owns the cloud, you're not paying attention to China. China owns China's cloud. The US has little to no visibility into these fleets, but they're huge (multiple million-server farms) and they have tons of national customers.

This development is politically interesting. National clouds are now a strategic interest. The EU is basically far, far behind in their internal development of national clouds.

Re: How Immigration Uncertainty Threatens America’s Tech Dominance

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Immigration has been uncertain for a long time. YCombinator founders have been working on their startups on 3-month visitor visas. Top graduate students can stay in the US for a year, then they need to enter a lottery to be allowed to stay for another few years. Trump changes barely anything. Unpaywalled: http://archive.is/BHfyN

In addition type O visas have no cap and are what people incorrectly attribute the H1b is for - geniuses instead of pushing out local talent.

I think we could afford to soak up as much high caliber talent as is willing to emigrate from the rest of the world, without raising the bar to the lofty level of "genius". The brain drain from the rest of the world to the US is a big factor in our ongoing economic competitiveness.

Re: How Immigration Uncertainty Threatens America’s Tech Dominance

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump changes plenty, in the past it was assumed that the USA would honor visa once they were issued, now it turns out not to be the case. Essentially this is breach of contract.

>Essentially this is breach of contract. Trump has altered the deal. Pray he doesn't alter it any further.

Anyone passing through customs from a country that begins with 'L' must now ride this unicycle?

Re: How Immigration Uncertainty Threatens America’s Tech Dominance

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Immigration has been uncertain for a long time. YCombinator founders have been working on their startups on 3-month visitor visas. Top graduate students can stay in the US for a year, then they need to enter a lottery to be allowed to stay for another few years. Trump changes barely anything. Unpaywalled: http://archive.is/BHfyN

> then they need to enter a lottery to be allowed to stay for another few years

There is a separate pool allocated for people with US degrees. Your chances are much more favorable and you are not competing against outsourcing firms.

But $130K for a talented but inexperienced graduate is tough...

Re: How Immigration Uncertainty Threatens America’s Tech Dominance

#36

in my experience > Its borerline impossible to find someone who will sponsor your visa in April for a job that begins in October > you can be rejected by h1b visa lottery > if you win the lottery, your visa application can be denied > you can be rejected by immigration official at visa interview > You can be turned around at port of entry > you visa might not renew after 3 yrs, forcing you to go back. so on... . Thes…

But it has been getting worse and worse in the last 10-15 years.

Re: How Immigration Uncertainty Threatens America’s Tech Dominance

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not a breach of contract. A visa is not a guarantee of entry even though many people assume it is. [Edit: Please don't interpret my comment as suggesting I think this is a good idea. If you check my posting history, you'll discover I'm an outspoken proponent of open borders.]

A movie ticket doesn't guarantee entry to a movie, either. But that would be bananas if they didn't let you in after you bought it.

Actually, it does. It's a contract, although your claim to relief is limited to a refund.

Re: How Immigration Uncertainty Threatens America’s Tech Dominance

#38

I don't have a subscription to WSJ. Could someone provide any other link with the same news?

Try the "web" link under the subscription title. That may get you around the paywall (though recently it's been inconsistent with the WSJ).

Re: How Immigration Uncertainty Threatens America’s Tech Dominance

#39
Meh. I doubt it. The US has huge advantages: a large internal market, large numbers of early adopters, an appetite for risk, an innovative mindset, excellent research institutions, plenty of world-class cities, lots of cash...

I mean, yeah, the current furore is "not good", but it doesn't cancel out the combined effects of all those advantages (and I've only listed a few!)

Re: How Immigration Uncertainty Threatens America’s Tech Dominance

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Immigration has been uncertain for a long time. YCombinator founders have been working on their startups on 3-month visitor visas. Top graduate students can stay in the US for a year, then they need to enter a lottery to be allowed to stay for another few years. Trump changes barely anything. Unpaywalled: http://archive.is/BHfyN

Trump changes plenty, in the past it was assumed that the USA would honor visa once they were issued, now it turns out not to be the case. Essentially this is breach of contract.

> Essentially this is breach of contract.

That's Trump's MO it seems. In other news today that fit this pattern: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/01/512928851/...

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