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Why do people care so much about terminal emulators and their supposed "bloat" and "complexity"?
There have been many times when vim starts glitching out or something because of the terminal emulator I'm using. Even well tested ones like X-term and gnome-terminal. I never had that problem using st. We hack so much into a text interface it's really easy to accumulate bugs.
I like the principles behind its design, but not supporting scrollback and saying "that functionality should be provided by tmux or something similar" is baffling when it's done in the name of removing bloat and complexity. Not everybody wishes to use a terminal multiplexer in all cases, either.
I like the principles behind its design, but not supporting scrollback and saying "that functionality should be provided by tmux or something similar" is baffling when it's done in the name of removing bloat and complexity. Not everybody wishes to use a terminal multiplexer in all cases, either.
void (handler[LASTEvent]) (XEvent ) = { [ButtonPress] = buttonpress, [ConfigureRequest] = configurerequest, [DestroyNotify] = destroynotify, [EnterNotify] = enternotify, [LeaveNotify] = leavenotify, [KeyPress] = keypress, [MappingNotify] = mappingnotify, [MapRequest] = maprequest, [PropertyNotify] = propertynotify, [UnmapNotify] = unmapnotify };
What's this feature called?
I don't use C for a couple of years and I see this: void ( handler[LASTEvent]) (XEvent ) = { [ButtonPress] = buttonpress, [ConfigureRequest] = configurerequest, [DestroyNotify] = destroynotify, [EnterNotify] = enternotify, [LeaveNotify] = leavenotify, [KeyPress] = keypress, [MappingNotify] = mappingnotify, [MapRequest] = maprequest, [PropertyNotify] = propertynotify, [UnmapNotify] = unmapnotify }; What's this feature…
I like the principles behind its design, but not supporting scrollback and saying "that functionality should be provided by tmux or something similar" is baffling when it's done in the name of removing bloat and complexity. Not everybody wishes to use a terminal multiplexer in all cases, either.
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unlimited scrollback buffer (done by dvtm)I like the principles behind its design, but not supporting scrollback and saying "that functionality should be provided by tmux or something similar" is baffling when it's done in the name of removing bloat and complexity. Not everybody wishes to use a terminal multiplexer in all cases, either.
Different people want different features. There's no way they're going to remain minimal and please everyone. They have to choose the feature set, and if other programs can provide a feature that some users want, that seems like a feature ripe for pruning. I think they made the right choice.
There are several reasons, but the biggest is that I'm pretty sure it's not possible to get more than a screenfull of text to my local X11 PRIMARY selection.
I like the principles behind its design, but not supporting scrollback and saying "that functionality should be provided by tmux or something similar" is baffling when it's done in the name of removing bloat and complexity. Not everybody wishes to use a terminal multiplexer in all cases, either.
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Different people want different features. There's no way they're going to remain minimal and please everyone. They have to choose the feature set, and if other programs can provide a feature that some users want, that seems like a feature ripe for pruning. I think they made the right choice.
I always find tmux's scrollback to be vastly inferior to a native terminal's though. There are several reasons, but the biggest is that I'm pretty sure it's not possible to get more than a screenfull of text to my local X11 PRIMARY selection.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Different people want different features. There's no way they're going to remain minimal and please everyone. They have to choose the feature set, and if other programs can provide a feature that some users want, that seems like a feature ripe for pruning. I think they made the right choice.
I always find tmux's scrollback to be vastly inferior to a native terminal's though. There are several reasons, but the biggest is that I'm pretty sure it's not possible to get more than a screenfull of text to my local X11 PRIMARY selection.