Facebook Ordered to Pay $500M in Oculus Lawsuit

Post by manquer » Thu, Feb 02, 2017, 3:55 AM UTC

psyc wrote: post #32

modeless wrote: post #22

Good to hear that the jury made the right decision on the ridiculous charges against Carmack. Sad to hear that they think a bunch of litigious assholes deserve $500 million for getting a signature on an NDA.

Zenimax, an investment vehicle for Providence Equity Partners, is literally run by actual lawyers. In the early days of Oculus, Carmack tried to get them interested in VR, and they wanted nothing to do with it. Now all of a sudden Oculus is a result of their tech. They wouldn't even have the slimy case that they have, if not for the fact that Carmack and others used to work there. People can debate the legal technica…

Post by sundvor » Thu, Feb 02, 2017, 4:18 AM UTC

funnyfacts365 wrote: post #86

AmirS2 wrote: post #31

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> what concretely happened: a poaching of a key employee Not quite the reason for the fine according to TFA: > Instead, it ruled that Luckey, who was working as a contractor for Zenimax before starting the Kickstarter for the Oculus Rift headset, violated his non-disclosure agreement,

Offtopic but, why do people feel it's alright to refer to the article as The Fucking Article and on some other stuff they get all mad because someone used a curse word? The HN crowd is bipolar...

Post by toomuchtodo » Thu, Feb 02, 2017, 4:31 AM UTC

zaroth wrote: post #114

Jerry2 wrote: post #101

This is a very interesting part: [0] >The liability of Defendants was established by uncontradicted evidence presented by ZeniMax, including (i) the breakthrough in VR technology occurred in March 2012 at id Software through the research efforts of our former employee John Carmack (work that ZeniMax owns) before we ever had contact with the other defendants; (ii) we shared this VR technology with the defendants under…

Wow... Very damn compelling and puts the $500m in perspective. I always wonder when they are able to show someone made a particular Google search months after the fact, where are they pulling that data from? Surely the browser history is long gone...

Post by rbobby » Thu, Feb 02, 2017, 4:57 AM UTC

Jerry2 wrote: post #101

This is a very interesting part: [0] >The liability of Defendants was established by uncontradicted evidence presented by ZeniMax, including (i) the breakthrough in VR technology occurred in March 2012 at id Software through the research efforts of our former employee John Carmack (work that ZeniMax owns) before we ever had contact with the other defendants; (ii) we shared this VR technology with the defendants under…

Post by Bamafan » Thu, Feb 02, 2017, 5:02 AM UTC

cma wrote: post #108

JohnDotAwesome wrote: post #65

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There's a story in Masters of Doom where Carmack and Romero do just that. If I recall correctly, they would take company (Softdisk I believe) computers at night because they were more powerful than their home computers, and use them to develop their own games. I think they even worked on their own games on company time. I might be getting the details wrong on that one, but sounds like Carmack dgaf (or just doesn't th…

I believe they settled it by paying some royalties on Commander Keen. A lot of times Carmack just wants to get shit done. At Oculus he has worked on both the Minecraft code and the Netflix code both for VR clients, both (I believe, I know for sure for Minecraft at least from some talks) with MS and Netflix retaining full ownership of the code. Maybe they have some "off the record" agreements to avoid anti-trust--Mine…