Brexit: MPs overwhelmingly back Article 50 bill
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Re: Brexit: MPs overwhelmingly back Article 50 bill
#2This will have huge implications for tech industry in the UK with drawing employees from the EU becoming a lot harder, as a result of uncertainty over visas if nothing else.
Re: Brexit: MPs overwhelmingly back Article 50 bill
#3This will have huge implications for tech industry in the UK with drawing employees from the EU becoming a lot harder, as a result of uncertainty over visas if nothing else.
such that London software engineering salaries will no longer be comparably pitiful to America's?
Re: Brexit: MPs overwhelmingly back Article 50 bill
#4This will have huge implications for tech industry in the UK with drawing employees from the EU becoming a lot harder, as a result of uncertainty over visas if nothing else.
such that London software engineering salaries will no longer be comparably pitiful to America's?
Take housing costs into account in London and many places are better:
Re: Brexit: MPs overwhelmingly back Article 50 bill
#5This will have huge implications for tech industry in the UK with drawing employees from the EU becoming a lot harder, as a result of uncertainty over visas if nothing else.
such that London software engineering salaries will no longer be comparably pitiful to America's?
Upvote.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted because you are correct: London salaries are pitiful even before you factor in the enormous cost of living there (I lived and worked in London for 4 years but did contracting as the salaries even 10+ years ago were and are a joke comparatively).
It's one reason I and many others work in the US instead.
No idea what Brexit will do to relative incomes. It depends on what happens with the pound, what the visa situation looks like and so on.
Re: Brexit: MPs overwhelmingly back Article 50 bill
#6Leaving the pros/cons of brexit out: if there was a plebiscite where the electorate voted in favor of something, and if we assume that politicians are supposed to be representing the electorate, shouldn't it have been pretty straightforward that the corresponding bill would pass largely unchallenged?
If it had failed, how would the politicians have justified to their electors voting against their express intentions?
Re: Brexit: MPs overwhelmingly back Article 50 bill
#7Leaving the pros/cons of brexit out: if there was a plebiscite where the electorate voted in favor of something, and if we assume that politicians are supposed to be representing the electorate, shouldn't it have been pretty straightforward that the corresponding bill would pass largely unchallenged? If it had failed, how would the politicians have justified to their electors voting against their express intentions?
> how would the politicians have justified to their electors voting against their express intentions?
Sometimes the electorate requires protection from itself; the idea is not new (below History Stack Exchange answer references James Madison).
"It is arguably the most famous of The Federalist Papers [1]. Madison argues that society is undone by faction"
defined as
"a number of citizens, whether amounting to a majority or a minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adversed to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.…"
"A faction can be a minority, but also a majority, and the majority can work against the good of the whole by abusing its power. The majority simply cannot be trusted not to oppress the minority, given the opportunity."
Emphasis mine.
The "Tyranny Of The Majority" [2] also comes to mind.
"American founding father Alexander Hamilton writing to Jefferson from the Constitutional Convention argued the same fears regarding the use of pure direct democracy by the majority to elect a demagogue who, rather than work for the benefit of all citizens, set out to either harm those in the minority or work only for those of the upper echelon. The Electoral College mechanism present in the indirect United States presidential election system, and the phenomenon of faithless electors allowed for within it, was, in part, deliberately created as a safety measure not only to prevent such a scenario, but also to prevent the use of democracy to overthrow democracy for an authoritarian, dictatorial or other system of oppressive government.[3] As articulated by Hamilton, one reason the Electoral College was created was so "that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
Some failure scenarios are clearly hard to prepare for.
http://history.stackexchange.com/a/5568
Re: Brexit: MPs overwhelmingly back Article 50 bill
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
such that London software engineering salaries will no longer be comparably pitiful to America's?
Take housing costs into account in London and many places are better: http://i.imgur.com/mNsk5oD.jpg
That's what happens when you let your city become an investment vehicle.
Re: Brexit: MPs overwhelmingly back Article 50 bill
#9Leaving the pros/cons of brexit out: if there was a plebiscite where the electorate voted in favor of something, and if we assume that politicians are supposed to be representing the electorate, shouldn't it have been pretty straightforward that the corresponding bill would pass largely unchallenged? If it had failed, how would the politicians have justified to their electors voting against their express intentions?
On a related note, it doesn't say much of the representative nature of the chamber that the vote doesn't reflect the split hair referendum result.
Re: Brexit: MPs overwhelmingly back Article 50 bill
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Take housing costs into account in London and many places are better: http://i.imgur.com/mNsk5oD.jpg
That's what happens when you let your city become an investment vehicle.
The problem with London is not property investment per se. It's that property is essentially used for money laundering [1].
If you're a US tax resident or citizen then you're used to filling out onerous reporting documents (FBAR and possibly 8938 as well) on foreign assets. Real estate holdings has zero reporting requirements.
[1] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/london-prope...