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Was Snowden a Russian Agent?

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Has the account of artsandsci changed owners? I see he/she's been a member for 900+ days, submitting a story every once in a while. Then starting 27 days ago he/she began submitting over 12 stories a day on average.

Nope, same old me, just got into the habit of submitting stories. I did see this for the first time a couple days ago: "Please don't submit so many links at once that the new page is dominated by your submissions." so I've been submitting less often.

Re: Was Snowden a Russian Agent?

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Has the account of artsandsci changed owners? I see he/she's been a member for 900+ days, submitting a story every once in a while. Then starting 27 days ago he/she began submitting over 12 stories a day on average.

157 submissions in the last 7 days (22 per day).

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The piece in WSJ from 2014 titled "Was Snowden's Heist a Foreign Espionage Operation?" is worth reading (https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304831304579542...).

Even though I am sympathetic to Showden for his disclosures of gov't surveillance of American citizens and others, the scope, complexity, and execution of operation leaves many questions unanswered.

National security officials (both Republicans and Dems) are quoted in the piece that they believe that Showden operation was an espionage heist.

From the article:

"On June 10, 2013, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D., Calif.), the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, described Mr. Snowden’s theft of documents as “an act of treason.” A former member of President Obama’s cabinet went even further, suggesting to me off the record in March this year that there are only three possible explanations for the Snowden heist: 1) It was a Russian espionage operation; 2) It was a Chinese espionage operation, or 3) It was a joint Sino-Russian operation."

So on one hand we have people like the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee and Obama officials who were neck deep in intelligence work, and on the other we have feel-gooders like Oliver Stone, who really don't know what's going on, and who might never ever find out what really happened, because it could be classified for ages...

Re: Was Snowden a Russian Agent?

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> "By pulling back at the end of his book, Epstein tries to have it both ways: weaving conspiracy theories while maintaining plausible deniability and some veneer of evidence-based journalism. But his indulgence in speculation, his treatment of questionable claims as established facts, and his misunderstanding of surveillance combine to undermine his book’s credibility."

TLDR - Epstein's book is horse shit and the accusation of Snowden being a Rus. agent is horse shit.

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post #5

The piece in WSJ from 2014 titled "Was Snowden's Heist a Foreign Espionage Operation?" is worth reading ( https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304831304579542... ). Even though I am sympathetic to Showden for his disclosures of gov't surveillance of American citizens and others, the scope, complexity, and execution of operation leaves many questions unanswered. National security officials (both Republicans an…

Because you should take everything everyone says at face value. Always.

Re: Was Snowden a Russian Agent?

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post #5

The piece in WSJ from 2014 titled "Was Snowden's Heist a Foreign Espionage Operation?" is worth reading ( https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304831304579542... ). Even though I am sympathetic to Showden for his disclosures of gov't surveillance of American citizens and others, the scope, complexity, and execution of operation leaves many questions unanswered. National security officials (both Republicans an…

The author of that WSJ piece is Epstein himself, who also authored the book under review.

Your statement at the end basically says, we have classified sources saying Snowden was a Russian/Chinese spy, and we have "feel-gooders" like Oliver Stone saying otherwise, so who do we trust?

The submitted article is by a reporter more neutral and level-headed than either Epstein or Stone, and he basically concludes: there is nothing at present but wild conjecture supporting the "Snowden was a spy" theory. So I think that may be the answer to your implicit question.

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