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Re: Living a Meaningful Life

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1) Imagine yourself on dying bed - what would you regret/be proud of in your past life? Strive to go that way. 2) Bring good to humanity, and don't do evil. If nothing else, if raising kids, be a good parent and role model - don't bring more unbalanced, fucked up, childhood-issue-riddled people into this world. Too many of those around already.

> Imagine yourself on dying bed Do people really do retrospectives of their lives on their death beds? Seems like a really odd thing to do during final hours of life. I am sure everyone no matter how meaningful their lives are, is going to have regrets. I just hope I am mentally well enough during my final days to enjoy it, not do an inventory of regrets vs accomplishments.

Yes, they do.

http://hintjens.com/blog:125

Re: Living a Meaningful Life

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post #8

1) Imagine yourself on dying bed - what would you regret/be proud of in your past life? Strive to go that way. 2) Bring good to humanity, and don't do evil. If nothing else, if raising kids, be a good parent and role model - don't bring more unbalanced, fucked up, childhood-issue-riddled people into this world. Too many of those around already.

> Imagine yourself on dying bed Do people really do retrospectives of their lives on their death beds? Seems like a really odd thing to do during final hours of life. I am sure everyone no matter how meaningful their lives are, is going to have regrets. I just hope I am mentally well enough during my final days to enjoy it, not do an inventory of regrets vs accomplishments.

Do you ever have moments when you look back at some of your experiences (school, work, relations, spirituality, health, etc.) and reflect on them? Either because you enjoyed them, messed up, etc.

if so, this is similar but on a grander scale.

> I just hope I am mentally well enough during my final days to enjoy it, not do an inventory of regrets vs accomplishments.

Those two aren't mutually exclusive. You can reflect on your life and enjoy it to the very end. The general idea is to live the kind of life you can look back on and smile about when death comes knocking.

You don't have to have that kind of experience when you're near death of course, but a lot of people do.

Re: Living a Meaningful Life

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imagine yourself on dying bed Do people really do retrospectives of their lives on their death beds? Seems like a really odd thing to do during final hours of life. I am sure everyone no matter how meaningful their lives are, is going to have regrets. I just hope I am mentally well enough during my final days to enjoy it, not do an inventory of regrets vs accomplishments.

And physically well enough to exact revenge on those that wronged me. Edit: That came out much darker than I meant it to.

Was it meant to be humorous? Because I got a chuckle out of it...

Re: Living a Meaningful Life

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1) Imagine yourself on dying bed - what would you regret/be proud of in your past life? Strive to go that way. 2) Bring good to humanity, and don't do evil. If nothing else, if raising kids, be a good parent and role model - don't bring more unbalanced, fucked up, childhood-issue-riddled people into this world. Too many of those around already.

Why optimize for the contentment of one moment of your life? There's no way to know, usually, how such will play out. I think people should optimize for every day contentment with an eye toward the future. I.e. Periodically evaluating how content they feel and making due adjustments.

Dying is but a moment.

Re: Living a Meaningful Life

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1) Imagine yourself on dying bed - what would you regret/be proud of in your past life? Strive to go that way. 2) Bring good to humanity, and don't do evil. If nothing else, if raising kids, be a good parent and role model - don't bring more unbalanced, fucked up, childhood-issue-riddled people into this world. Too many of those around already.

It is foolish to optimize your entire life just to feel a certain way in the last 5 minutes.

Re: Living a Meaningful Life

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And physically well enough to exact revenge on those that wronged me. Edit: That came out much darker than I meant it to.

Was it meant to be humorous? Because I got a chuckle out of it...

He just read The Count of Monte Cristo

Re: Living a Meaningful Life

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1) Imagine yourself on dying bed - what would you regret/be proud of in your past life? Strive to go that way. 2) Bring good to humanity, and don't do evil. If nothing else, if raising kids, be a good parent and role model - don't bring more unbalanced, fucked up, childhood-issue-riddled people into this world. Too many of those around already.

An issue with 1), is that many people don't actually care prior to that situation. There are so many people with no goals and no motivation to do anything. They may start a project, but there is no incentive to complete it. If you don't work towards anything, you won't have anything to regret.

Re: Living a Meaningful Life

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This article silently assumes that a "meaningful life" means: - making good choices of the projects you work on - making those projects succeed, or at least ensure pushing them forward So it reduces this broad topic "meaningful life" to the aspects of personal time management, project management and motivation management. In short, the article appears to be very work-centric (but including paid work as well as volunt…

Not so surprising, since most people enjoy the satisfaction of having their plans work out, achieving goals and so on - and consumerism, the dominant 'philosophy' of western liberalism, is all about the accumulation of satisfying experiences.

Of course, this doesn't sound all that great when it's reduced to its bare bones. That's why extremist ideologues often find great political success by promoting a stark message: a life filled with suffering and struggle offers more meaning then one where there's never any danger or anxiety. Hitler told the German people quite frankly that they'd have to go through fire to realize his vision, and that sounded good to enough people that he was able to make good on the promise. Likewise, millions of Slavs were willing to sacrifice themselves against hopeless odds (as it seemed at the time) to repel the Nazi invasion of the USSR. Indeed, once a country goes to war there invariably seems to be a great outpouring of enthusiasm because the inherently pointless quotidian struggles of work, survival, acquisition and consumption are replaced with the much more exciting and arousing struggles for life and death, for which economic competition is only the proxy.

I believe there are two basic reasons for this. One, most people don't enjoy thinking for its own sake all that much, but when you're in a survival situation you can dispense with all that tedious mentation and really live in the moment. For people who have lived a qualitatively meaningless life up to that point, this is tremendously liberating. The other reason is that life is never sweeter than when death is close, and danger is highly correlated with sexual arousal for evolutionary reasons - hence the epidemic of rape during wartime. When time horizons are short, prohibited actions are no longer consequential, and the normal moral calculus is abandoned, then expression triumphs over repression.

In sum, we're not really cut out for long-term thinking and abstract mentation for its own sake appeals to only a tiny minority. There is great value to living in the moment but most people don't know how to do it, and so their frustration builds up, to the detriment of the social body which must eventually express the excess -much as a boil is tolerable until it becomes a cyst and needs to be lanced.

This is the reason that attempts to create a totally safe society are doomed - the safer you make it, the more of a prison it becomes. I'd rather not write an essay about this, but there's a reason that aristocratic societies allowed and created formal rules for dueling.

Re: Living a Meaningful Life

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post #14

1) Imagine yourself on dying bed - what would you regret/be proud of in your past life? Strive to go that way. 2) Bring good to humanity, and don't do evil. If nothing else, if raising kids, be a good parent and role model - don't bring more unbalanced, fucked up, childhood-issue-riddled people into this world. Too many of those around already.

Why optimize for the contentment of one moment of your life? There's no way to know, usually, how such will play out. I think people should optimize for every day contentment with an eye toward the future. I.e. Periodically evaluating how content they feel and making due adjustments. Dying is but a moment.

The point isn't to optimize for contentment at the end of life. Rather, it's a technique for getting to the 50,000-foot view of one's life.

There's a saying "what you focus on gets bigger." If you live in the day-to-day, it's easy to turn the minutiae into your whole life.

Also, "pleasure" and "happiness" are fairly orthogonal. Living in the day-to-day arguably prioritizes pleasure over happiness.

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