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no-limit and tournament play were deliberately placed outside the scope of their poker-bot projects--at least during the period of time i was following it which was approx. 2004 - 2010.
anyone know if the CMU team trained their rig on these variants?
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These pros are considered to be top 20 HU online specialists, they would destroy Negreanu and Ivey over the long run at this particular variant (which they have played millions of hands at).
Back when I played poker (up to ~2010), Negreanu was mostly a celebrity, as well as a pretty good blog writer. He was no match for the best pro players, but perhaps he has dramatically improved. Ivey was pretty good at managing his image, too.
Do a search for "long term" in online poker and you'll find that the suggestion for players to determine their level of play based on that "long term" is something like one million hands. That's running 4 tables for full days of poker over a long period of time. For sure it's playing more than 4 players. The probability space of poker is such that 4 competitors isn't going to tell you much. And defining "top" is diff…
From the article: > A poker-playing AI has beaten four human players in a marathon match lasting 20 days. 20 days seems like plenty of time. No ?
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Just showing your ignorance. That margin of victory over that many hands isn't luck or coincidence. The pros were absolutely dominated.
I disagree and it's not ignorance on my part. Due to the nature of the poker and heavily weighted component of luck, a terrible AI can theoretically win. I am sure the AI they built is a mighty and spectacular achievement, but poker is about the only game I know where the worst player can easily beat the best player. Prove me wrong and I'll happily accept your insult of "ignorance" edit I should have been more clear,…
Why would you refer to that? That's not at all what happened here.
In the game that was played (long-term HUNL cash) the worst player cannot beat the best player at all. Not easily, not at all.
Not to mention they didn't run the cards out.
You're commenting without reading the article, seemingly.
it won't be long before we hearing more headlines like: "AI beats top 10 hedge fund managers" to "AI run hedge fund blows up due to black swan event" regardless it's an incredible feat. It really casts questions into what our edge as humans are which is slowly disappearing and we didn't even need to put a brain in a jar and hook it up to a computer....it's deep learning reinforced algorithms that is appearing to outl…
> "So the question is, how does an average joe hacker like me exploit and leverage this wonderful thing called deep learning? I'm not interested in reading PHD papers with advanced calculus." FFS, if you're not willing to read a paper with BASIC CALCULUS (it's HS/college, not advanced like fractional), then I'm not sure machine learning is the right place for you.
Once this is out, it's going to be have a big impact on online poker games. They way things are going with AI. You have a good algorithm, you can get rich very quickly by being a one man business with hardware rented in AWS. Libratus AI player is modelling it's human counterparts and predicting how they think to outsmart them. When Google started, they got the page rank algorithm and distributed algorithms good enoug…
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I'm glad you posted it because it shows how little people understand their engineer's financial importance. Granted, engineers are required to create products and maintain it. You need product to sell. But at the marginal level for every dollar your sales person makes your engineer is not. You might argue but the product is generating revenues but that's not what drives a sale. A sale is a function of value derived f…
If good engineers are dime a dozen then why do they command >200k salary? I don't think you understand how much skill and practice goes into making a good programmer. Your ignorance is truly astonishing.
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Back when I played poker (up to ~2010), Negreanu was mostly a celebrity, as well as a pretty good blog writer. He was no match for the best pro players, but perhaps he has dramatically improved. Ivey was pretty good at managing his image, too.
Say that all you want, those guys play(ed? I'm out of the loop) in the big game, and...whoever you're thinking of, basically--didn't.
Almost all pros who have had success both online and live agree that live games a ridiculously soft compared to online games. The reason more online pros don't play live is because you have to live in Las Vegas or Macau to play a the highest stakes, or you have to be invited. Also, the big live games are usually mixed games that don't afford a huge edge to online pros who specialise in a few games.