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New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

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Re: New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

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Post by NTDF9 »

dimgl wrote: post #357
snoman wrote: post #296

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> In reality it's abused to import cheap labor and undercut average American workers doing common work like building applications or administering systems. Really? How much should it cost to do common work like building crud applications or administering systems? Right now, (based on all the H1-B, and similar visa holders I know, which is a good amount) it's ~2X the median household income to pay one visa holder to d…

That's the point. It's to discourage employers from using H1-B visas to hire people to make CRUD apps and instead hire domestically.

I think companies will just outsource crud jobs. There's enough talent outside the US. Until now, they were being brought in with H1b. Now they'll just do if from across the world.

Re: New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

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Post by doytch »

remar wrote: post #424
doytch wrote: post #170

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A lot of larger companies will switch you to an H1-B at some point since they're trying to put you on a Green Card track (bc of long-run costs? not sure). While you technically can apply for a green card on TN status, since TN is intended for temporary workers, it's frowned upon by DHS and immigration departments at companies know that. Source: I'm a two-time Canadian > US TN-to-H1B and eventually bailed out of the p…

Curious, was the marriage specifically for the purpose of getting out of that rat race?

Nope, just got lucky. :)

Re: New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

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Post by mavelikara »

kstrauser wrote: post #425
mavelikara wrote: post #414

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> Well, and given that the premise of H1-B visas is that "we literally couldn't find a local who could do this", I'm OK with that. H-1B visa does not have such a premise. Green card applications do though - are you confusing the two?

I think you have that backward. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa : > The regulations define a "specialty occupation" as requiring theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge in a field of human endeavor including but not limited to biotechnology, chemistry, architecture, engineering, mathematics, physical sciences, social sciences, medicine and health, education, law, a…

It says nothing about the availability of these skills locally.

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Post by remar »

doytch wrote: post #432
remar wrote: post #424

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Curious, was the marriage specifically for the purpose of getting out of that rat race?

Nope, just got lucky. :)

Hope I run into the same sort of luck eventually. Sucks having to worry about whether I'll still be in the country when trying to plan for the years to come.

All this on top of worrying about work, relationships, personal health, and always trying to catch up and learn the "fundamental" bits of knowledge required to do my job. Sometimes I feel like I wasn't born with as many cores as others :(

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Post by durbin22 »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #263
cmurf wrote: post #196

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Bloomberg suggests this is going to get upstaged by the administration's proposed changes; but they're not really revealing any details about the draft. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-30/trump-s-n... This months old Vanity Fair article gives some insight that Trump feels there is a role for immigration policy to make it easy for foreign students getting good jobs in the U.S. and innovating here; whil…

>while his senior counselor and strategist thinks there are too many asians in Silicon Valley The idea that you can have "too many" of any type of person is about an un-american as one can be. Somehow Trump has no problem with 'too many' chubby white supremacists in the white house. Oh right, whites get a pass on everything. Its only non-whites that have to worry about being too high profile or too successful as to n…

I'm tired of this "un-american" nonesense. I remember when it was "un-american" to oppose the Iraq war.

Not wanting to be inundated with foreigners is a valid political position whether you like it or not.

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Post by giis »

gregw2 wrote: post #193
giis wrote: post #135

I never visited U.S and heard about H1-B and its abuse by Indian Body-shops. Let me know if below understanding is correct or not: 1) So far, Indian Body-shops paid low salary compared to original one. (for example, say instead of 80K/yr ,Indian Body-shops paid 40K/yr and kept the remaining for themselves) 2) Now with new bill, increased base amount to 130K/yr and also ensures this goes the employee? Is that correct?

Yes, Indian body shops have charged high fees >80k while not even remitting even close to the 60k back to the employee. I have witnessed this. I have also witnessed employers rescuing people from such body shops by hiring them for 60k on h1b for jobs that could absolutely be done by a u.s. citizen (web programming) and keeping their salary at 60k for many years despite growing skill. The system is broken and abused..…

Thanks for the details. imo, this will have more impact on Indian body shops profit and shareholders more than affecting employee's and that's why greedy IT companies are more upset.

Its good for U.S IT professionals, since hopefully it will end discrimination based on low-pay. Good for India's IT professionals, because they need to prove their worth based on technical skills and not just cheap labor.

I also hope visa interview system get more technical (i assume its not technical atm)- instead of getting interviewed by someone with-in the company, candidates need to be evaluated by independent third party to allow only right candidates.

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Post by oneness731 »

winter_blue wrote: post #121
anondon wrote: post #42

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I get the impression that this new bill is like putting lipstick on a pig which is the current system. I was hoping the amendments to the H1-B bill would be one of the silver linings of a Trump presidency, but I guess not anymore.

I've commented on this before, at: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13433540 I'm copying the comment below: --- I'm on an H-1B, and the thing that infuriates me about the dialogue on this is that they are effectively trying to ban skilled immigration, and exclude people like me from coming. If you don't qualify for the family-based or refugee route, employment-based immigration is the only viable pathway. The amo…

Isn't there an OPT for two years in which you can work? That may or may not be enough to get to 130

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Post by kstrauser »

mavelikara wrote: post #434
kstrauser wrote: post #425

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I think you have that backward. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa : > The regulations define a "specialty occupation" as requiring theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge in a field of human endeavor including but not limited to biotechnology, chemistry, architecture, engineering, mathematics, physical sciences, social sciences, medicine and health, education, law, a…

It says nothing about the availability of these skills locally.

Sigh. Here's the Department of Labor explanation (at https://www.dol.gov/whd/immigration/h1b.htm):

"The H-1B program applies to employers seeking to hire nonimmigrant aliens as workers in specialty occupations or as fashion models of distinguished merit and ability. A specialty occupation is one that requires the application of a body of highly specialized knowledge and the attainment of at least a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent. The intent of the H-1B provisions is to help employers who cannot otherwise obtain needed business skills and abilities from the U.S. workforce by authorizing the temporary employment of qualified individuals who are not otherwise authorized to work in the United States."

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Post by jetru »

yoloboy wrote: post #295

I think this is going to drive more jobs out of US. Corporations will seek out opening new off-shore offices, in Asia, Canada and EU. This doesn't change the fact that we don't produce enough skilled workers to meet our demands. And in Trump's America it's not going to get any better. Not all speciality occupations pay as high as tech, and it's going to affect them 'biggly'. Immigrant hate is what this is cultivating…

This is a Democrat proposal
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