AI Beats Four Top Poker Players

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Post by jeremyleach » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 8:15 PM UTC

AI Beats Four Top Poker Players
bbc.co.uk

Re: AI Beats Four Top Poker Players

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Post by doesnotexist » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 8:44 PM UTC

Andrew Ng posted a comment about this on facebook: "I'm thrilled about Libratus' Poker triumph--this is a huge step for AI. Othello/Checkers/Chess/Go were theoretically solvable with minimax tree search and sheer computation; but poker, which requires bluffing, needs sophisticated modeling of your opponents and new algorithmic principles. CMU's Tuomas Sandholm has also (in a private email) promised to publish their algorithms, which I look forward to. Congrats CMU!!!" https://www.facebook.com/andrew.ng.96/posts/1260889373966967

Re: AI Beats Four Top Poker Players

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Post by MaggieL » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 8:45 PM UTC

Surely nobody is surprised? Perfect knowledge of probabilities, no emotion and immune to bluffing.

Re: AI Beats Four Top Poker Players

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Post by random_rr » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 8:48 PM UTC

MaggieL wrote: post #3

Surely nobody is surprised? Perfect knowledge of probabilities, no emotion and immune to bluffing.

Uh... that's a very dismissive comment for quite the breakthrough! Congrats to the human players and the AI team for a great showmatch.

Re: AI Beats Four Top Poker Players

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Post by brilliantcode » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 8:49 PM UTC

it won't be long before we hearing more headlines like:

"AI beats top 10 hedge fund managers"

to

"AI run hedge fund blows up due to black swan event"

regardless it's an incredible feat. It really casts questions into what our edge as humans are which is slowly disappearing and we didn't even need to put a brain in a jar and hook it up to a computer....it's deep learning reinforced algorithms that is appearing to outlearn, outthink the best of humans.

I just can't emphasize what a monumental period in history we are at. Humans are producing specialized algorithms that learn and hold information about the deep web of relationships between myriads of parameters to produce superior performance than humans.

It's almost like we've uncovered ways to automate our intelligence very much like we've been automating human and animal labor in the past couple centuries.

So the question is, how does an average joe hacker like me exploit and leverage this wonderful thing called deep learning? I'm not interested in reading PHD papers with advanced calculus.

I want to have a map of what AI, ML, DL, NN methodologies to use and when and who to hire based on that. This is no time to be a luddite and don't count on basic income from appeasing the masses anytime soon. Much like people took the most hit in the early rise of industrial revolution, our generation and immediate generation will be hit the hardest.

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Post by throw_away » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 8:49 PM UTC

MaggieL wrote: post #3

Surely nobody is surprised? Perfect knowledge of probabilities, no emotion and immune to bluffing.

"Capable of bluffing" would perhaps be the surprising thing.

Re: AI Beats Four Top Poker Players

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Post by feral » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 8:50 PM UTC

brilliantcode wrote: post #5

it won't be long before we hearing more headlines like: "AI beats top 10 hedge fund managers" to "AI run hedge fund blows up due to black swan event" regardless it's an incredible feat. It really casts questions into what our edge as humans are which is slowly disappearing and we didn't even need to put a brain in a jar and hook it up to a computer....it's deep learning reinforced algorithms that is appearing to outl…

> "AI run hedge fund blows up due to black swan event"

Knight Capital, 2012:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-08-02/knight-sh...

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Post by brilliantcode » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 8:53 PM UTC

feral wrote: post #7

brilliantcode wrote: post #5

it won't be long before we hearing more headlines like: "AI beats top 10 hedge fund managers" to "AI run hedge fund blows up due to black swan event" regardless it's an incredible feat. It really casts questions into what our edge as humans are which is slowly disappearing and we didn't even need to put a brain in a jar and hook it up to a computer....it's deep learning reinforced algorithms that is appearing to outl…

> "AI run hedge fund blows up due to black swan event" Knight Capital, 2012: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-08-02/knight-sh...

How many of these hedge funds running on AI are out there in America?

I'd think one would make a lot of money shorting such outfits.

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 8:53 PM UTC

brilliantcode wrote: post #5

it won't be long before we hearing more headlines like: "AI beats top 10 hedge fund managers" to "AI run hedge fund blows up due to black swan event" regardless it's an incredible feat. It really casts questions into what our edge as humans are which is slowly disappearing and we didn't even need to put a brain in a jar and hook it up to a computer....it's deep learning reinforced algorithms that is appearing to outl…

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Post by sanswork » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 8:56 PM UTC

brilliantcode wrote: post #8

feral wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "AI run hedge fund blows up due to black swan event" Knight Capital, 2012: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-08-02/knight-sh...

How many of these hedge funds running on AI are out there in America? I'd think one would make a lot of money shorting such outfits.

That would only work if you'd expect these events to be frequent enough that you wouldn't have to short for very long or else the costs of your short would outpace any possible profit very quickly.