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Re: Welcome, ACLU

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I have to wonder what YC's exit strategy is here, exits not always benefiting the funded company.

I don't think there's an exit strategy or taking of equity. They've funded non profits like that for a couple of years now. "money we’re putting into the nonprofits will be a charitable donation" https://www.ycombinator.com/nonprofits/

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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> You don't even have to go that far; half the people on these boards step over a homeless person to get to work every morning. This is a spot on comment.

>half the people on these boards step over a homeless person to get to work every morning. But don't you think half the people on these boards would also support a vast overhaul of the tax system that prioritizes the military/war over services for the homeless? Currently 60+% of our taxes go towards the military. That's unbelievable. Why not chop that in half and redirect it towards welfare services? Or is that too h…

Come on... The budget for military spending in 2016 was 15-17%.

What you're regurgitating was actually a hoax/misleading meme photo that propagated that number in order to paint Republicans as war mongers. All it took was one Google search to confirm.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/...

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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Pre-inauguration, discussion of Trump's immigration policies and their logical conclusion would have been shut down under the "no politics" rule. Seems it only takes ~10 days of this stuff being real for folks here to admit that politics affects everybody and is a valid topic of discussion.

Guidelines: "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon." I think this counts as an interesting new phenomenon.

Is it new if they've been promising to do this for ~1 year? This is exactly my point, that people on here flame you into the ground if you talk about "politics", but it could be that some of us 1 year ago would have been legitimately trying to talk about what was to come.

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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The ACLU sometimes supports a worthy cause, but it's basically just a left-leaning political organization. I understand that's particularly trendy right now, and anyone who supports Trump is a pariah in Silicon Valley... but come on. Would YC be donating directly to the Democratic party if that got the same favorable tax treatment?

The ACLU has defended the rights of neo-nazis and pedophiles. They defend people that no one wants to defend including democrats.

Recently?

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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You can be cynical about us bringing in the ACLU, but in the words of Maya Angelou: “Do the best you can until you know better. Then when you know better, do better.”

That's a great quote. Also, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Another factor is to consider framing: you can view this cynically as "only getting involved when it might impact their bottom line", or more favorably in that "it was bad before, but now it's finally hit their breaking point." I prefer to reduce my cynicism as much as possible, giving people the benefit of the doubt. It's also good for my overall happiness.

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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How do startups already part of YC feel about this? What are the ramifications of having your name tied with and being part of an organization that backed something that has as much to do, if not more, with politics than technology?

Politics is intertwined with everything. Not sure why you're trying to draw a line here. Start ups are extremely "people" based entities. If you think the ACLU doesn't fit in with the YCombinator landscape -- given recent events -- then I'm not sure what I can really say to paint a more vivid picture to make you understand.

My point is not that startups are not "people" based entities, but simply that this is a clear aversion from the norm on the part of YC and that ACLU is as much a political organization, if not more, than a technological one.

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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Although I think the American Civil Liberties Union is incredibly valuable and I'm glad they have a lot more money now to fight for the American people, I'm questioning all of this. Where was the outpouring of funding when black people were being gunned down by cops from West Coast organizations? Where has YCombinator been as our own impoverished African-Americans are getting slaughtered in the streets of Chicago? Wh…

The ACLU is always active and protecting our rights, I do get the crying wolf fatigue and impression that a lot of this might seem questionable, but right now I think a lot of people are more motivated as this is not an issue of one specific group being targeted/needing help, but the very idea of democracy in America that is under attack by this administration. It is something they have publicly said (trump and bannon), everyone who believes in the constitution should be very worried at what is going on.

Hopefully we are all wrong and overreacting, but if trump has shown one thing it is that you should take what he says literally, and if you pay attention to what he and bannon have said you should be worried, no matter your political leaning or origin.

And that to me means we can't afford to get cynical on people's motives that are reacting to what is going on. So good on YC for doing this now.

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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It's flags that kill comments, not downvotes. None of the flagged comments (at the moment) are constructive. There's one other dead comment that hit another filter, it hasn't been flagged.

How do you flag comments? I can flag posts, but with over 11k karma I don't see an option to flag comments, only downvote. Or can only the admins flag a comment?

Click the bit that says "1 hour ago" or similar. Then you should see "flag" above the comment.

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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post #41

Although I think the American Civil Liberties Union is incredibly valuable and I'm glad they have a lot more money now to fight for the American people, I'm questioning all of this. Where was the outpouring of funding when black people were being gunned down by cops from West Coast organizations? Where has YCombinator been as our own impoverished African-Americans are getting slaughtered in the streets of Chicago? Wh…

Also keep in mind that they have to use very little funding to fight innumerable injustices that have already happened and those that will potentially happen. Its incredibly tough as others have said on other fronts, but from a fiscal perspective its amazing they are able to do as much as they have.
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