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India's tech industry panics over U.S. plans to change high-skilled visas

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Re: India's tech industry panics over U.S. plans to change high-skilled visas

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Post by mhurron »

VLM wrote: post #57
Lord_Yoda wrote: post #34

Trying to play a devil's advocate, I might be downvoted here right away. Disclosure: I am not going to be affected by this, but I do work in tech industry. 1. With the decline of low-wage tech workers, where do you think the mundane/non-value added work they do will go? Not everything will/can be outsourced, and you don't want to your USD 130K employee to do that. There is a real scarcity of tech skilled workers in t…

"There is a real scarcity of tech skilled workers in the US." That is a blatant falsehood it only exists due to "culture fit" where you can only hire a skilled tech worker if they're also a 20-something white male Stanford grad living in SV or maybe NYC. Try just considering hiring a person of color or a woman. There's a hell of a lot of them, they're not much worse at their jobs than the young white boys, but on the…

> Try just considering hiring a person of color or a woman. There's a hell of a lot of them, they're not much worse at their jobs than the young white boys

Why do you believe women and minorities are worse workers than whites?

Re: India's tech industry panics over U.S. plans to change high-skilled visas

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Post by klipt »

transfire wrote: post #44

Considering that foreign counties are providing free tuition to qualifying students and then sending them here to get better paying jobs, I can only be supportive. Although, in the long run I'd prefer to see tuition be free at public schools here as well. We seem to have gotten things all around ass backwards these days. We get high-end candidates from Asia and low-end candidates from Mexico, so Americans are being s…

No such thing as "free tuition", it's just paid through taxes instead of through student fees.

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Post by frgtpsswrdlame »

bobosha wrote: post #35
rurban wrote: post #23

130k is indeed too high. To fight the most egregious abusers 100k would have been enough. Not everybody works in Silicon Valley IT, and even there the indian bodyshops offered only Many other industries rely on foreign talent, and many cannot pay 130k, but 100k would be fine IMHO.

130K in Kansas City >> 130K in SF. Hope they take geography into consideration.

Why? This is great for programmers in areas like KC.

Re: India's tech industry panics over U.S. plans to change high-skilled visas

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Post by neil1023 »

130K is far too high in my opinion. Maybe that would be reasonable in Silicon Valley but nowhere else. This policy should account for the cost of living of where the businesses are located. A large amount of businesses will not be able to afford employees at that proposed salary - even the if the potential employees are highly skilled.

Re: India's tech industry panics over U.S. plans to change high-skilled visas

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Post by sulam »

cloakandswagger wrote: post #7

It's about time. Say what you will about Trump's other policies, but it's high time someone took an ax to the H-1B program. The level of abuse I've witnessed from it over the years is heinous; foreign workers essentially working as indentured servants, with the only beneficiaries being corporations using their cheap labor and the foreign consultancy firms that farm them out. I'll be interested to see what changes get…

This is a bill introduced by a California Democrat, fwiw. I suspect most Republicans want nothing to do with it, so it will never see the light of day.

Re: India's tech industry panics over U.S. plans to change high-skilled visas

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Post by Lord_Yoda »

VLM wrote: post #57
Lord_Yoda wrote: post #34

Trying to play a devil's advocate, I might be downvoted here right away. Disclosure: I am not going to be affected by this, but I do work in tech industry. 1. With the decline of low-wage tech workers, where do you think the mundane/non-value added work they do will go? Not everything will/can be outsourced, and you don't want to your USD 130K employee to do that. There is a real scarcity of tech skilled workers in t…

"There is a real scarcity of tech skilled workers in the US." That is a blatant falsehood it only exists due to "culture fit" where you can only hire a skilled tech worker if they're also a 20-something white male Stanford grad living in SV or maybe NYC. Try just considering hiring a person of color or a woman. There's a hell of a lot of them, they're not much worse at their jobs than the young white boys, but on the…

Some of the few I have met who were from the MidWest were not willing to move, others who wanted did get the job. I did not see this coming in their way. Obviously, I am speaking from my limited experience.

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Post by laughingman2 »

bdcravens wrote: post #36
laughingman2 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have 2 years exp in medium sized product company (which has global market) in India. I have developed iOS apps, react app, web app in django (basically full stack). have experience in python, java, javascript and swift. I applied for few good colleges (UCSD, UT Austin, Carnige Mellon, GATech, Arizona state) to specialize in Machine Learning in US. Should I change my plans (I have to spend anywhere from 40-90 lakh R…

$130k is a bit low for only 2 years of experience, but go deep in an area and you could get there. I think doubling down on React would be your best bet; the key is depth not breadth. (knowing Swift at a React job not really valuable; knowing Docker or hard-core backend - more than just building CRUD apps with Django - complements your React skills)

My day job is swift iOS development until recently. I learnt react redux etc etc for side project which I am doing. I have developed CRUD apps with some extra stuff like celery tasks , web sockets etc.

I am at a point where I can pick up new languages/frameworks in a breeze (Yet to learn how to do non trivial functional programming though).

Yeah I know key is depth, but I am interested in too many things :(.But industrial application of AI is my final goal, that is why I applied for MS in machine learning.

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Post by SirensOfTitan »

sulam wrote: post #66
cloakandswagger wrote: post #7

It's about time. Say what you will about Trump's other policies, but it's high time someone took an ax to the H-1B program. The level of abuse I've witnessed from it over the years is heinous; foreign workers essentially working as indentured servants, with the only beneficiaries being corporations using their cheap labor and the foreign consultancy firms that farm them out. I'll be interested to see what changes get…

This is a bill introduced by a California Democrat, fwiw. I suspect most Republicans want nothing to do with it, so it will never see the light of day.

This is a planned executive order, where are you getting this is a bill introduced by a California Democrat?

Re: India's tech industry panics over U.S. plans to change high-skilled visas

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Post by X86BSD »

sudhirj wrote: post #8

Heh. Depends on which part of India you're referring to. The younger me would have found it more difficult to get foreign assignments that form the foundation for a lot of the house buying and marriage making here, but I think the slightly more experienced folks like present me welcome the change - that is the low end of the salary range I'd expect if I was going to jump countries with a family, and now I don't have…

Good, CTS is an appalling sweatshop of a company and should be barred from working in the US.
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