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Re: Welcome, ACLU

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I thought the "A" in ACLU stood for American.

And where do you think Silicon Valley is, or where YCombinator is based?

I believe they may be making an oblique reference to the ACLU acting on behalf of immigrants this past weekend.

Of course, it's perfectly consistent to believe that the government of the United States of America does not sufficiently respect the civil liberties of non citizens.

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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The ACLU sometimes supports a worthy cause, but it's basically just a left-leaning political organization. I understand that's particularly trendy right now, and anyone who supports Trump is a pariah in Silicon Valley... but come on. Would YC be donating directly to the Democratic party if that got the same favorable tax treatment?

How are your rights 'trendy'?

I tend to stay out of politics, and don't really label people as such, but Trump is a bad guy. I'm happy to donate engineering time to the ACLU.

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They defend the KKK's rights to free speech , not their abhorrent views. Protecting freedom of speech and the press is increasingly necessary in today's world, given how vocal Trump and his staffers are about shutting down dissenting views. Also, I see that you are a new account. You should read up on the standards for discussion here on Hackernews.

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You have a right to free speech, and these websites have a right to publish whatever they want. You are free to type things or to say things, there's no obligation for anyone else to host them or transmit them for you.

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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I see an error message. But it's actually interesting enough: "Apache/2.2.24 (Unix) mod_hive/5.5 mod_ssl/2.2.24 OpenSSL/1.0.0-fips mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_fastcgi/2.4.6 mod_fcgid/2.3.6 Server at blog.ycombinator.com Port 443"

This is all widely outdated. OpenSSL 1.0.0 support has ended in 2014. Running mod_fcgid and mod_fastcgi in the same server process doesn't seem to make any sense (as they are basically competitioners for the same functionality).

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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The ACLU sometimes supports a worthy cause, but it's basically just a left-leaning political organization. I understand that's particularly trendy right now, and anyone who supports Trump is a pariah in Silicon Valley... but come on. Would YC be donating directly to the Democratic party if that got the same favorable tax treatment?

The ACLU tends to not pick political sides.

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you classify, say, reddit?

Reddit is a startup in the sense of http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html The ACLU probably isn't, and I think the parent's question is whether YC has funded any other companies of the same type.

No, they asked about funding organizations involved in politics. I wondered if they believed reddit to be apolitical, not whether they believed it fit some definition of some other concept.

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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I remember when HN did not have a political agenda. Right or wrong, this used to be mainly about startups. Now its become a highly political message board

No, it hasn't. The rule has been the same for years: most politics are off topic. Check it out: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. The difference between "most" and "all" is significant. HN can't be immune to what's going on in the outside world and we've learned from years of experience that it doesn't make sense to try. At the same time, we're not going to let politics overwhelm the site, since that would kill it.

The concern about HN becoming too political or not political enough is as old as HN. There are at least as many users complaining that we're suppressing all the political stories and what not. I wrote more about this at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13516969 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13522433 if anyone's interested.

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They defend the KKK's rights to free speech , not their abhorrent views. Protecting freedom of speech and the press is increasingly necessary in today's world, given how vocal Trump and his staffers are about shutting down dissenting views. Also, I see that you are a new account. You should read up on the standards for discussion here on Hackernews.

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Free speech, not free from other people's disagreement. The color of your previous comment pretty much speaks for itself.

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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Peter Thiel insists that the immigration EO is does not constitute a religious ban [1], but Rudy Giuliani says this is exactly what the President asked for [2] (Also, we heard him say as much many, many times). [1] http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2017/01/28/peter-thiel-s... [2] http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316726-giuliani-t...

It's not just Peter Thiel but anyone of sound mind -- the top 5 countries by Muslim-majority population are not included. * Indonesia 204,847,000 (87.2%) * Pakistan 178,097,000 (96.4%) * India 172,245,158 (14.2%) * Bangladesh 145,312,000 (90%) * Nigeria 75,728,000 (47.9%) If Indonesia suddenly became plagued by radical Islamic terrorism then it would be on the list too. The seven countries targeted by the immigration…

You think Indonesia doesn't have problems with terrorism? (Edit: also, Pakistan?). The idea that this is a reasonable counterterrorism measure by any means is a farce that doesn't stand up to the lightest of scrutiny. It's a test of executive power, perhaps for something more sinister [1].

[1] https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e...

Re: Welcome, ACLU

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Site's intermittent. Here's a copy: We are delighted to be funding the ACLU as a non-profit[0] in our Winter 2017 batch. The ACLU has always been important, but has a particularly important role[1] right now. We are honored to be able to help, and we will send some of our team to New York for the rest of the batch to assist. The ACLU will have full access to the Y Combinator network and community, and they will prese…

Wait, news.ycombinator.com can hug of death ycombinator.com? That's insane. Also I'm happy that this is happening and did not realize such a thing was possible. Does ACLU count as an early stage startup? PS: no need to downvote, jeez, I'm just pointing out a curious observation

They* introduced non-profit funding a while ago.
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