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New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

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Re: New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

#81
" Providing employment and travel authorization to those with approved employment-based petitions awaiting visa availability, so they have similar protections to those provided portability under the American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act "

What exactly does this mean? Can people with approved petitions move freely between employers without redoing a labor cert?

Re: New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

#83

This is a good but flawed move. In very high COL places like NYC and SFBA $130k is barely a living wage unless you can put up with a 2h commute. OTOH, in low COL markets (eg. KC) this eliminates H1-Bs from consideration for most entry-level positions. For many markets in the middle (an example doesn't come to mind, perhaps Los Angeles?) where $130k+ is a decent salary for an entry-level position this new minimum work…

> NYC and SFBA $130k Really ? Surely it can't be that expensive ?

I think it's a combination of hyperbole and being out of touch.

$130K is not "barely a living wage". It's a very good salary in the Bay Area and 1.5 times the average wage in SF.

Re: New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

#84
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After you graduate you have to get h1b to work. Nobody is going to pay straight out of school biologist 130k.

There is no shortage of biologists. Pay and conditions in the life sciences is abysmal. The sausage factory relies on graduates for cheap labour. So if foreign students knew the couldn't even get a poorly paid job after graduating, would they go elsewhere? Would this cause a collapse of the university pyramid scheme? Would labs have to start paying real living wages for staff? Lots less science would get done in the…

Let's hope you are not in a life/death situation later in your life where you get some disease for which treatment could have been available earlier if that foreign student was "allowed" to stay and do the work in the USA...

All because of some delusional billionaire who is allowed (by us) to play his real life monopoly game.

Re: New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

#85

This increase in salary is not for the H1-B workers benefit; rather, it's to make hiring them more expensive so American workers will be considered first--as they should be. I would support any law that REQUIRED American companies to hire Americans first and then consider foreigners ONLY if no qualified Americans can be found in the 50 US states. If America wants to do good by her workers, she needs to put Americans…

The reason top companies (FB, Google, major SV startups, etc.) exist primarily in the US is because the US is able to attract talent from all over the world. If these companies had never been able to hire the best people, there wouldn't now be the same companies hiring more Americans. They would simply exist in other countries, instead of the United States. By the way, I work at one of these companies and have had fr…

I understand the nuances of immigration and why people seek the worker visas...

My dad moved here from Europe in the early 60s, went through INS, got a green card, a job, and 6 months later was drafted into the Army and went to Vietnam. Unlike Americans at the time, my dad was given the choice to accept the draft or go back to Europe. He accepted the draft, fought in Vietnam, was injured, and EARNED his citizenship the hard way. My dad was a stellar man in many ways. He exemplified the best work ethic I have ever seen and likely will ever see. He went from being a civilian handyman and cook to E9 in the military (only 1% make this grade by law) to earning almost $200k a year before his death.

Re: New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

#86

Here is the summary straight from the horses mouth: https://lofgren.house.gov/uploadedfiles/high_skilled_bill_sx... A few points: - This does not raise the salary requirement to $130k/yr. This only applies to employers that do not want to do the extra paper work for "attestations regarding recruitment and non-displacement of U.S. workers" - It takes a "market based" allocation strategy which allows "cash bonuses and…

Yup. The fact that compensation is included, is useless. Companies give you unvested shares worth tonnes that take > 4 years to fully vest. The attrition rates are so high, the sweat shops can get away with it.

Startups offer equity, consulting companies don't. That would actually tend to favor startups as the equity they grant drives the "compensation" upwards despite it being monopoly money until the shares actually vest and assuming they're even worth printing at this point.

Re: New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

#87

This is a good but flawed move. In very high COL places like NYC and SFBA $130k is barely a living wage unless you can put up with a 2h commute. OTOH, in low COL markets (eg. KC) this eliminates H1-Bs from consideration for most entry-level positions. For many markets in the middle (an example doesn't come to mind, perhaps Los Angeles?) where $130k+ is a decent salary for an entry-level position this new minimum work…

> NYC and SFBA $130k Really ? Surely it can't be that expensive ?

Well, I may be exagerating the 2h commute part, but RE prices in SF (and therefore rents) are completely ridiculous at this point, and East Bay places near any BART (light rail) station are too. Sharing an apartment doesn't help much since the sharing seems to be built into the price of apartments with more rooms.

Taxes in CA are a bit higher than elsewhere in the US as well, but at least there you're getting a halfway decent safety net. Rents are high only due to the suppression of the housing supply.

Re: New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

#88
There are some good ideas in this, but not enough. While not everyone will share this view, it seems like most people agree visas for highly-paid, high-value R&D workers are good, and filling up body shops with seatwarmers is not good. The question is: How to make H1-B unattractive to body shops?

A high minimum salary is definitely one way to do it, but, as another commenter pointed out, there remain loopholes. Another way would be to auction H1-Bs, with a high minimum bid. Another would be to prioritize positions that are not contract-labor positions. If it works right, and expands the tech industry, it should be possible to implement the supposed intent of H1-B-to get people into the country that we don't have.

But, unless the barriers are financial, they will get lawyered into nullity.

Re: New H1-B Visa bill doubles the salary requirements to $130K/yr

#90
This is a blatant hypocrisy on American side. They will sue the shit out of Indian Solar, Pharma, Angri industries if it has competitive prices but won't allow india/emerging nations to do the same in their market. Emerging nations are bullied by developed nations for a long time and the saga goes on. I get that H1b visa was used to provide cheap services but globalization works both way. Powerful nations can't just enact the laws which only works in their favor.
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