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Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by badwulf »

maaaats wrote: post #379
badwulf wrote: post #367

What do the people flying into the airport have to do with the Muslim ban? The taxi industry is sickening, they feel no empathy towards the people travelling, then why should I feel any empathy towards them? If angry taxi drivers want to do protests, there are ways to do it without harming innocent people travelling in. If they resort to such a thing, how can they claim moral high ground?

This has nothing to do with "angry taxi drivers". This is about making "the innocent people traveling" feel as stuck as the innocent people affected by Trumps order.

So people visiting the US need to feel the vendetta of the people who don't like Trump's latest policies? Is that the moral high round? Ends justify the means?

So if I'm negatively affected by something happening in the world, I'm allowed to channel my anger on anybody?

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by inimino »

andrewmchen wrote: post #27
foolfoolz wrote: post #9

these types of events usually blow over in a month or so. but it does confirm what everyone already knows: ride hailing apps have no stickiness. at the end of the day no one cares what service provides the car.

People will care if and when Uber figures out autonomous taxis and can continue their ridiculously low prices without losses.

At which point that tech too will be a commodity, unless you see Uber having some edge in autonomous cars, and why would they?

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by titanix2 »

masklinn wrote: post #301
leereeves wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This wasn't a strike, it was a political protest. By not participating, Uber naturally made enemies among a group of people with a tendency to boycott everyone they disagree with. (I'm not taking sides here, just pointing out that this was a predictable outcome.)

> This wasn't a strike, it was a political protest. The taxis started a strike action (in support of the protest, but a strike nonetheless). > By not participating strike-breaking. > I'm not taking sides here Of course you are.

If the taxis are doing a strike, you can speak of strike breaking only for taxis not participating in it. Uber are not taxis per se, so there is no way they can break a strike they aren't doing in the first place.

Also there seems to be a confusion made on strike and strike consequences or demonstration. Being on strike only means stop working, not directly blocking access or service (although it is often done in conjunction). So again Uber providing service for people not serviced by taxis can not be labeled of strike breaking: Uber didn't prevent any taxis to be on strike if they want to do it.

Aside my opinion on the matter as a French who suffered more than one time from strikes is that Uber did a good job by allowing people to live their lives normally. Not being able to move, send a mail, study, lend a book, ... is really frustrating.

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Post by refurb »

general_ai wrote: post #289
agumonkey wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah man I think he is not. He cannot flip the U.S into a farce like that. The amount of absurdly ridiculous news all over is devaluing the whole nation at light speed. I don't think he will last. I hope not. ---- He just fired a justice head for disagreeing. Apparently his assistant is showing tweets at press conferences.. This is unreal, I have no words.

What's so "unreal" about firing an Obama appointee for blatant insubordination? Obama fired all of Dubya's people too, a Bush fired all of Clinton's people likewise. She was just keeping the chair warm for Sessions anyway. This is what's baffling to me. _Everything_ Trump does is interpreted in the most bizarre and paranoid way possible. I eagerly await the H1B order later this week. Once it is signed, HN will all of…

_Everything_ Trump does is interpreted in the most bizarre and paranoid way possible.

Unfortunately that's how politics works in the US. It's not about arguing your position and attempting to convince people. It's about scoring "political points" which means casting your opponent in the worst possible light, even if that means twisting the trust or being hypocritical.

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Post by Tritrin »

kelnos wrote: post #400
Tritrin wrote: post #341

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Well that's one way of looking at it. People apparently still could ride Uber and Lyft so they werent really impeding anyones travels to and from the airport. Another is that NY Taxi which employs many 1st and 2nd generation immigrants were granted one hour of their time to stand up in solidarity for those immigrants being detained without risking their jobs. It's not a case of "union strike" since it's unrelated to…

Well, you can't have it both ways. Either: a) You expect Uber/Lyft to take part in your strike, in which case you are impeding travel, or b) You don't expect Uber/Lyft to take part, in which case no one should be coming down so hard on them for "breaking the strike". I think it's great that NY Taxi gave their immigrant employees time to participate in the protests, but, they could have... y'know... just done that . N…

I never claimed to hold either of those positions. Personally I think it's great that the taxi drivers of NY could display solidarity in this issue with the detained immigrants and their contempt for this clusterfuck of an Excecute Order. But I will not engage you in trying to collapse this argument into a squabble over trivial details. To echo another reply:

You don't understand protest.

The words in MLKs "Letter from a Birmingham jail" could hardly be more suitable to your chain of reasoning.

"I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the ____ great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: 'I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action'; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the ____ to wait for a'"more convenient season.' Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will."[0]

sources: [0] https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham....

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by [deleted] »

badwulf wrote: post #367

What do the people flying into the airport have to do with the Muslim ban? The taxi industry is sickening, they feel no empathy towards the people travelling, then why should I feel any empathy towards them? If angry taxi drivers want to do protests, there are ways to do it without harming innocent people travelling in. If they resort to such a thing, how can they claim moral high ground?

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Post by abpavel »

ianai wrote: post #316
kkhire wrote: post #56

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>I find it depressing that people don't spend any time verifying stories and separating facts from fiction. I would classify the #deleteuber event as a form of fake news. The worst part is, this problem will only continue. It's so easy to fake news these days, and lets say a bot was built to vet authenticity...which bot do you trust, the one made by CNN or breitbart? it just feeds back to the original problem, except…

Maybe the thing to do is make a fake news app. Just pump that channel so full with fake news that the only rational option is to seek less news, higher quality.

You mean The Onion?

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Post by craigching »

Zach_the_Lizard wrote: post #399
azinman2 wrote: post #253

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Lyft donated 1M to the ACLU. That's pretty different about taking action.

And Uber is spending $3 million on legal services for their drivers.

I don't want to take sides, but how is spending $3 million to compensate their own drivers vs. $1 million going to the ACLU which benefits people other than Lyft's "employees" in any way equal?

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Post by sethev »

titanix2 wrote: post #423
masklinn wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This wasn't a strike, it was a political protest. The taxis started a strike action (in support of the protest, but a strike nonetheless). > By not participating strike-breaking. > I'm not taking sides here Of course you are.

If the taxis are doing a strike, you can speak of strike breaking only for taxis not participating in it. Uber are not taxis per se, so there is no way they can break a strike they aren't doing in the first place. Also there seems to be a confusion made on strike and strike consequences or demonstration. Being on strike only means stop working, not directly blocking access or service (although it is often done in con…

That seems like an absurd splitting of hairs. Under that logic the concept of a strike breaker couldn't exist. "It was coal workers who were striking, but the replacements are not coal workers per se they were non-participating laborers who happen to perform the same function"

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Post by [deleted] »

facetube wrote: post #395
facetube wrote: post #394

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a misread then. I'm reporting what I witnessed being deliberately promoted by a group of people that self-identified as "conservative" and/or "alt-right". Simply put, and with no other judgement – I've seen no credible evidence that the extreme left is an "order of magnitude worse" than its counterpart on the right.

Here's a great example of depravity from the right, found in two minutes on Twitter with a search for "MAGA". This is using images of a senator's children and proposing a hypothetical rape of them in service of a political goal, which is so blindingly reprehensible that it's hard to even type out: https://twitter.com/ChristiChat/status/826182267978407936 .

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