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Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by untog »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #125
the-dude wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Virtue signalling

All of the people involved in the protests from top to bottom are just virtue signaling. The CIA went into Syria in 2006 and started funding and training opposition forces leading to the current civil war. The Obama administration is responsible for a quarter million deaths in Syria alone. And that doesn't include the use of cluster bombs, an act considered a war crime in most of the civilized world, on several of th…

Many of those protesting are objecting to green card holders being blocked entry into the country they are permanent residents of.

People will always protest against things that are more immediately visible to them than things they read about in infrequent news articles. That's just human nature.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by baddox »

rdtsc wrote: post #84

Lyft sent me a political message in an email so I deleted Lyft and now don't have either one. I used them, because I thought they were nicer to the drivers and allowed me tip. And I support the refugees and think this is a stupid and dangerous ban. Oh and I was a bit in the same boat as some of them and on a few occasions was not allowed board the plane with a ticket in hand, and was not able to get home to US. But L…

Condemning opposition to bad things because worse things have happened in the past is something I do not even remotely understand.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by hueving »

knieveltech wrote: post #114
wikyd wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drivers on Uber are contractors. Isn't it each driver's choice to decide if they want to strike or not?

It absolutely is. This doesn't make scabbing any less vile, however. All it has guaranteed in this instance is that a bunch of hapless Uber drivers are going to be feeling the backlash. Friends don't let friends scab.

>This doesn't make scabbing any less vile

This is a political opinion, and the context definitely matters. This wasn't a strike for higher wages, this was a strike to back a political stance.

How would you feel if the cabbies went on strike because we allow Muslims to vote? Would you so vehemently blast people that want transportation to continue functioning in the interim in that case as well?

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by WarmToaster »

panarky wrote: post #69
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #3

Dan Primack summarised this well; Uber failed on messaging: "Uber has done a lot of questionable things over the years, but its actions this past weekend vis-a-vis Trump's immigration ban weren't among them. An actual timeline from Saturday, which may differ from what you saw on social media: • 4:20pm ET: CEO Travis Kalanick sent email to employees. It stopped short of explicitly opposing the ban, but did say: (1) Th…

This isn't about "messaging" or "optics". Kalanick is playing a double game, collaborating with the Trump administration on the one hand, while simultaneously trying to be seen as moral. This is too transparent and Kalanick got caught trying to play both sides. If he believes the Muslim ban and other policies of hate are immoral, he should loudly and publicly resign his position on the president's economic advisory g…

"Policies of hate"

The destruction of 10s of millions of american jobs was an actual policy of hate and arrogance.

A policy stopping immigration from countries with very established terrorist groups isn't "hate".

Is a firewall hate against the internet gestalt of human cognition and computer computation?

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by DoofusOfDeath »

rdtsc wrote: post #110
KirinDave wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is getting ridiculous. We and our allies have bombed the crap out of those countries. Destabilized, them turned them into failed states. (Iran is probably the only sane one who arguably has a functioning government). We bombed hospitals, civilians, funded ISIS. Obama alone, the Nobel Peace Prize recipient just last year managed to drop over 26k bombs but but there is a stupid travel ban and the apps on my phon…

> I'm really confused by this. Are you mad because the political climate is encouraging people to wake up and go, I am mad that an app on my phone is now sending me emails about what I think is a fake outrage and jumping on a bandwagon. > Are you mad because the political climate is encouraging people to wake up and go, People should wake up. And one can argue, a good thing about Trump is perhaps we'll see a start of…

Wait... Starbucks indicated they'll take nation of origin and immigration status into consideration when making hiring decisions?

Wouldn't that be illegal in the U.S.?

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by baddox »

rdtsc wrote: post #110
KirinDave wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is getting ridiculous. We and our allies have bombed the crap out of those countries. Destabilized, them turned them into failed states. (Iran is probably the only sane one who arguably has a functioning government). We bombed hospitals, civilians, funded ISIS. Obama alone, the Nobel Peace Prize recipient just last year managed to drop over 26k bombs but but there is a stupid travel ban and the apps on my phon…

> I'm really confused by this. Are you mad because the political climate is encouraging people to wake up and go, I am mad that an app on my phone is now sending me emails about what I think is a fake outrage and jumping on a bandwagon. > Are you mad because the political climate is encouraging people to wake up and go, People should wake up. And one can argue, a good thing about Trump is perhaps we'll see a start of…

Fake outrage? I don't understand. Must I preface any complaint about a current event with a list of every historical event that I think was worse? A general argument against unsolicited emails is fine, but you seem to be making a much more specific complaint than that.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by rosser »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #125
the-dude wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Virtue signalling

All of the people involved in the protests from top to bottom are just virtue signaling. The CIA went into Syria in 2006 and started funding and training opposition forces leading to the current civil war. The Obama administration is responsible for a quarter million deaths in Syria alone. And that doesn't include the use of cluster bombs, an act considered a war crime in most of the civilized world, on several of th…

Some of them, sure. Maybe even most, though I don't think so; all of the people I know who are involved in this stuff are very well aware of Obama's militarism. But all of them? That's just lazy. And wrong.

You don't have to protest every cause to protest any cause. You can even protest things that, taken together, demonstrate you hold ideologically inconsistent views, if you want. That's on you.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by hueving »

panarky wrote: post #69
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #3

Dan Primack summarised this well; Uber failed on messaging: "Uber has done a lot of questionable things over the years, but its actions this past weekend vis-a-vis Trump's immigration ban weren't among them. An actual timeline from Saturday, which may differ from what you saw on social media: • 4:20pm ET: CEO Travis Kalanick sent email to employees. It stopped short of explicitly opposing the ban, but did say: (1) Th…

This isn't about "messaging" or "optics". Kalanick is playing a double game, collaborating with the Trump administration on the one hand, while simultaneously trying to be seen as moral. This is too transparent and Kalanick got caught trying to play both sides. If he believes the Muslim ban and other policies of hate are immoral, he should loudly and publicly resign his position on the president's economic advisory g…

That is how a child would behave. You can't quit and ignore the person in charge.

When have you ever heard the advice, "you get what you want by refusing to engage the only people who can do something about it?"

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by NotSammyHagar »

WarmToaster wrote: post #164
panarky wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't about "messaging" or "optics". Kalanick is playing a double game, collaborating with the Trump administration on the one hand, while simultaneously trying to be seen as moral. This is too transparent and Kalanick got caught trying to play both sides. If he believes the Muslim ban and other policies of hate are immoral, he should loudly and publicly resign his position on the president's economic advisory g…

"Policies of hate" The destruction of 10s of millions of american jobs was an actual policy of hate and arrogance. A policy stopping immigration from countries with very established terrorist groups isn't "hate". Is a firewall hate against the internet gestalt of human cognition and computer computation?

Except they left out the countries with the most known terrorist activities in the us, that happened to be countries with major trump investments, that would be Saudia Arabia and Egypt.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by WarmToaster »

wpietri wrote: post #155
srtjstjsj wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The strike was nonsense anyway. Why were drivers striking -- punishing the innocent residents and visitors (and protestors/allies!) of New York (a sanctuary city!), in an attempt to punish Donald Trump?

You don't understand protest. Sure, one thing you can do is disrupt the specific people doing something bad. But that's pretty rare. As MLK explains, the point is to create a more general disruption so that everyone has to take notice of an issue they might otherwise ignore: "Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is…

And now blacks are ed because "shallow understanding from people of good will" led to the situation where more blacks kill other blacks in a year than the entire history of lynchings from the Ku Klux Klan.

A significant number of AA males grow up in fatherless homes.

The entire situation is an atrocity exhibition.

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