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Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by jayajay »

8ytecoder wrote: post #5
nichochar wrote: post #4

It's funny to me how Lyft positions itself like the poor little underdog that deeply cares about humans. People are so susceptible to marketing it's crazy. They provide the exact same service, and Lyft cloned most of uber's features once uber had achieved the unbelievable mindshift of changing people's behavior. Whatever people think, in a few years if Lyft is popular enough, guess what: they too will become the "big…

To be fair, either Uber copied the idea of ride sharing from lyft or both copied it from sidecar. Uber wasn't the first.

Who is the first doesn't matter. Who does it best, though? That is the real question.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by incongruity »

true_religion wrote: post #18
cdmckay wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the issue people have isn't the surge pricing so much as the fact that Uber didn't participate in the strike, and thus profited from it.

So? I have a hard time understanding why a multinational company needs to participate so deeply in the politics and labor strikes of a single city. New York is big, but I'd imagine the CEO had a focus that included LA, Chicago, London, etc. and that would take away from coordinating with any taxi-strikers in NYC. Addendum: Did the taxi union contact Uber before the strike to coordinate this action? I mean it's a 1 ho…

They don't have to but their customers are similarly free to opt to not use Uber and, even, to call for other customers to do the same.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by mistermumble »

chillingeffect wrote: post #25
foolfoolz wrote: post #9

these types of events usually blow over in a month or so. but it does confirm what everyone already knows: ride hailing apps have no stickiness. at the end of the day no one cares what service provides the car.

Can someone please help me understand why traditional taxis haven't adapted the same tech as Lyft and Uber? You're right, there really is no moat. Tech is mostly a big ol database. Is it due to disjointure among small companies?

There's a startup called Flywheel that has been selling shovels to taxi cab companies -- in the form of electronic dispatch, payments, navigation and GPS-based metering.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/22/flywheel-expands-uber-like...

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by kkhire »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #36
alphonsegaston wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uber broke the strike by breaking the strike. This absurd focus on whether surge pricing was a multiplier or disincentive is a complete distraction. The taxi drivers reached out and asked Uber for solidarity. They dispatched drivers to break the strike. They made their bed in the court of public opinion, now they can lie in it.

The sole point I'll argue in this thread is "so did Lyft". If you're boycotting all ridesharing apps in favour of licensed taxis, that's one thing. But deleting Uber and installing Lyft is misguided.

"I'm #deletingUber to show how anti-Trump I am!"

uses Peter Thiel backed Lyft instead

funny thing is, Trump supporters are now deleting Lyft in favor of uber.

nobody does an ounce of research anymore.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by prostoalex »

alphonsegaston wrote: post #29
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #3

Dan Primack summarised this well; Uber failed on messaging: "Uber has done a lot of questionable things over the years, but its actions this past weekend vis-a-vis Trump's immigration ban weren't among them. An actual timeline from Saturday, which may differ from what you saw on social media: • 4:20pm ET: CEO Travis Kalanick sent email to employees. It stopped short of explicitly opposing the ban, but did say: (1) Th…

Uber broke the strike by breaking the strike. This absurd focus on whether surge pricing was a multiplier or disincentive is a complete distraction. The taxi drivers reached out and asked Uber for solidarity. They dispatched drivers to break the strike. They made their bed in the court of public opinion, now they can lie in it.

But you don't break the strike by removing surge pricing and increasing everyone's pick-up time, you break it by keeping surge pricing, so that the drivers chasing the surge swarm the location in order to boost their earnings.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by debacle »

Legal trailblazing costs a lot of money. Attacking entrenched establishments costs a lot of money.

Uber was never going to be able to solve the ridesharing problem for just Uber, and its competitors are going to be unhindered by the massive amount of money Uber has spent on changing regulations.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by tofu_icecream »

It was the Taxi Worker's Union that participated in the Strike, not Cab companies. Is it really fare for Uber to force their contractors to stop working and making money in "solidarity" with this union? If Uber drivers wanted to support the strike, they could have stopped doing pick ups.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by debt »

MaxLeiter wrote: post #2

Completely stolen from https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/5r2apd/lyft_sur... This is all a consequence of bad messaging on Uber's part here; they're not in the wrong. Uber's Surge system is all automatic--if demand goes way up, and supply doesn't follow suit, prices will increase in the app. Unfortunately, demand goes way up during catastrophes like terror attacks, so Uber has had a few bad instances where,…

How do you know Surge is automatic?

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by rosser »

true_religion wrote: post #22
rosser wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the pricing is the extent of people's concerns, or even the majority. I'm not a fan of Kalanick, personally, but I was prepared to have been wrong about him when I saw his Facebook post about taking care of the drivers who were stranded by this idiocy. Then, I saw they were taking fares to JFK during the taxi strike — effectively breaking it. To my eyes, and those of many others, that is an ugly repudia…

Standing in solidarity by preventing the people who are protesting from getting to and from the protest is inane. Without the lipservice they paid, I'd have actually believed the taxi union was rallying against the the protesters.

If you're going there to protest, take the subway. It's not like you've got luggage or anything. And the work stoppage was only against picking up fares, anyway.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by zouhair »

true_religion wrote: post #18
cdmckay wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the issue people have isn't the surge pricing so much as the fact that Uber didn't participate in the strike, and thus profited from it.

So? I have a hard time understanding why a multinational company needs to participate so deeply in the politics and labor strikes of a single city. New York is big, but I'd imagine the CEO had a focus that included LA, Chicago, London, etc. and that would take away from coordinating with any taxi-strikers in NYC. Addendum: Did the taxi union contact Uber before the strike to coordinate this action? I mean it's a 1 ho…

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